Will powerleveling be allowed in 2.0?Follow

Ok let me be clear if you see my name Maxximus Gold and im fighting a monster 4 to 5 levels above me im not looking for help, im looking to challenge my self, my skill and my gear, if i scream for help by all means help out if you want, but if im not asking for help just keep on walking.

I have to ask why do you talk to me when you have nothing to say? I play how i like to play, i enjoy challenging my self and testing out my gear that i work hard to craft. Keep your nose and your help out of my business unless i ask for help, is that hard to get?

And people aren't telepaths. If someone "helps" then ask them not to the next time and carry on your way. Being selfish and stomping your foot because a passerby dared to be generous just reeks of immaturity. That mob will respawn in a minute or so if there aren't dozens around already. Meanwhile, in the time it takes for someone to stop and ask if someone needs help and for the person to reply, if they even can, could be enough to kill them. You then get one person sad they couldn't help and potentially another pissed that someone just stood there and did nothing, costing them time and money in repairs.

I've found that, most times, people aren't helping so much as they are simply killing common mobs for quests. For example, if you have worked a mob down to its last hit point and then someone else steps in and kills that mob, you both get credit for the kill. Granted, that's not always the reason, but it has been my experience that it usually is. I don't own the zones or the mobs in them, so if someone wants to kill 3 squirrels amd 3 ladybugs faster by "helping" me, I don't feel that it has any effect on my game experience. Even if it did bother me, I know that I don't own anything in the zone, so it doesn't matter anyway. If I want to kill things alone, I will go play skyrim.

I exp'd with my Husband in P3, he was a level 20 Archer and I was level 10ish CNJ. We were running around killing my hunt log mobs. We experienced 2 things of note.

1st, Depending on the level of the mob i received little to no exp for the actual kill. ex. level 9 Opo Opo, I would get about 10exp (if any) and he would get about 30exp.
2nd, because we were partied up and I'm assuming because he was higher level, both the Opo's and the swarms linked with themselves and each other. If I dropped party these mobs would change and not link

I don't remember there being an option at the time for him to level sync. Might just not have been implemented in P3.

Edited, Jul 26th 2013 8:50am by Deathbuyer

this so much this! There is no reason to grind out exp in open world the only reason to kill things are for quests and hunt logs. If someone gets mad over you helping than they can be mad but if im doing a hunt log or quest im gonna tag/kill everyone I see so I can get my quest/log done asap. Thus getting more exp per min. This mentality of NO THIS IS MINE.. has to go. We are a community, and our actions should refelct this.

Thanks for this reply. I can appreciate what you are saying here. Your adding some specific examples to the general theme of this thread, which seems to be "PL is no longer an issue".

I cant believe all the stuff people can make up about me, off of one post, im a big team player i enjoy fighting monsters with my friends, but some times i like to fight by my self, then i get a few people flameing me with a bunch of smart *** comments, that i dont need or care for, if you dont like the way i play then dont play like me, if you want to talk to me please dont assume or imply i do something when i dont, in life its not what you know its what you can prove.

If you happened to be on my server and I found you in game, I'd probably follow you around, "helping" you kill mobs for a while. Then I would get bored and craft you some HQ Underpants.

Besides, this whole point is moot considering that overworld mobs are so easy. If you want more of a "challenge" just do levequests on +4. No one can attack those mobs unless they are in your party. Problem solved.

Edited, Jul 26th 2013 3:16pm by DamienSScott

Not quite yet there isnt.

I rather hope that isn't the case. I think the whole point of leveling is to teach you how to play the game. I don't think it needs to be belabored with a huge grind, but it definitely has to introduce you to the skills your character has control over.

I think the reason people get upset over powerleveling is that they end up working with teammates that don't even know the basics of their role. Without that minimum understanding, a boss fight would be hopeless.

There were still bad players in XI even when it took some people a year+ to get their first job to 75. Even in XIV's case, I don't see how general EXPing teaches a healer how to heal a group when their style for killing mobs ideally doesn't involve casting a single cure. On the other hand, they may have some common sense and decent situational awareness, having read tooltips on their abilities and using them wisely when they finally step into a group scenario. There's basically no way you can predict a stranger is good, as even a healer decked out in dungeon gear at a specific level could've just greed lotted it on a DPS job earlier. Assuming PLing to be the root of lacking skill because of this just strikes me as silly, and I have no doubt when some here against it are on their third+ job, they'll be wishing for a way for things to be a little faster.



Anyway, I got a nice passive aggressive PM from a certain someone for basically telling them to chillax over people daring to help. I like to function off the belief that MMOs should be designed for as many people to experience as much of the content as possible instead of defaulting to stuff like prestige gear and ultimately segregating players who have and don't have things. A consequence of being more laid back about this kind of stuff means things might happen that certain personalities will be displeased with. Anyone getting ****** over people being well-meaning will earn my scorn regardless of how much of a righteous prick they perceive me because of it. The alternative of implementing systems that frown upon players interacting and helping one another just simply seems far worse as someone who played these games when they were The Thing(tm). Instances still exist if you truly crave an isolated environment, but I also see that devolving into the same old boring ho-hum of ranged class superiority if soloing is your thing. And really, people getting angry over trash mobs is dumb. There are no dibs, either. Maybe some time post-launch once people are more spread out someone could find some little isolated corner of the world and solo well into obscurity, but I also feel that's short-changing the overall game and potential strengths of community play. Granted, I'm not blind to the shortcomings of interacting with others, either.

We've both seen what RDM did to XI's endgame with unchecked DoT/Kite tactics. Hopefully XIV doesn't permit such stupidity on anything meaningful, as the inevitable outcome tends to mean a class suffers in the future because of it. But when I mention ranged superiority, that extends into other games, too, where melees simply lack the option to kite indefinitely while doing damage or mitigating it enough to do what they want to. Hell, I'd probably be giddy if DEF/VIT is actually done right this time around.