Scholar confirmed!Follow

Arcanist should use mh:dagger oh:book.

You're already Scholar :P Maybe you should work on being an Onion Sage. ;)

I would take caution in making any assumptions based off anything from 1.0.

That said, get ready to see the horde of mithra in school girl outfits.

I was just thinking of mi'qote females running around wearing glasses, mortar boards and plaid skirts swinging yard sticks

I'm ready.

Easier isn't always good. Sounds very lazy to me. I've accepted and even appreciate the system. 1:1 just leaves room for more. It's why people keep saying strange things on the main forums. Musketeer>SCH, and even worse, MRD > SAM. It's like they're not even trying. Just sounds provincial to me. Ronin > SAM. Hell, Calculator > SCH (Doubtful, just an example, relax.) would be accepted by many. Since they've already chosen this path, they shouldn't take any developmental shortcuts, just because you don't want to level a new class and wish to jump into the job.



I'm sorry if my POV was vague. Fulfilling other class requirements aren't factored into the ratio. BLM requires monk, yet you'd be hard pressed to make any rational connection between the two. Meaning, if the system were different, you'd never even consider PUG and BLM to be related.

1:1 more specifically means that the lvl 50 class which has the most direct influence over the job, and the fact that they both share the same Main Weapon.

I enjoy many people's ideas that stem from their excitement. They're fun to read. It's the job stemming that I take issue with, because they don't consider the limitations of tying a weapon to ONE class. Or how complicated it would get. They're never thought out, so they say silly things like MRD > SAM. Take my Ronin > SAM example. Samurai's are also known for their pole arm use and archery. Having either ARC or LNC as the 15 requirement wouldn't make that 2:1. Samurai and Ronin still use Katana, ergo 1:1. Creating a new class as the foundation of the new job. That GLA > DRK/PLD idea makes me disappointed and nervous, since I'd want a great weapon for DRK, yet GLA is limited to swords (and daggers as of 1.0 lol). So they'd have to find some work around to make it happen.

I have no idea what they're planning on putting as the base for SCH. I don't particularly care as long as they give us a new class. I'm in the waiting for NIN/Assassin/THF/Rogue/SAM boat. For the SMN and SCH lovers, I'm happy for them. I'm playing either way.



Edited, May 30th 2013 7:17pm by GDLYL

Or maybe Summoner gets the primals and Scholar can bring golems and dolls and stuff to life?

I would love to have my books animate things or even better yet use my book to kill things. That way I can either go on a fruitless hunt to look for the Necronomicon or reaffirm the belief that books are indeed dangerous~

You win. *Bow*

I see your point, and I admit my judgment may be clouded by how much I love FFT, but I think the idea of unlocking new jobs from combinations of the base classes is a more fun way to do things. It gives people the satisfaction of getting to play around on a few of the base classes while still working toward their greater goal of unlocking the job they really want to play. I see it as a win-win from both a player and developer standpoint.

Edited, May 31st 2013 12:34am by schneiderw

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schneiderw wrote:

GDLYL wrote:

schneiderw wrote:

Wint wrote:

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I hope not. I wish people would give up the branching job theories and just be satisfied by an entire new class and job. 1:1 for now. It might be more viable after a massive raise in the level cap though.

But it isn't is it? According to the site you need one class at 30, and another at 15 before unlocking jobs... so 2:1 ?

Seems like it would be easier with 2:1 or 3:1 because the devs could add more jobs without having to add base classes. Also, one could simply jump right into the new job (assuming prerequisites already met) without needing to level a class one doesn't necessarily want to play.

Edited, May 30th 2013 1:37pm by schneiderw

Easier isn't always good. Sounds very lazy to me. I've accepted and even appreciate the system. 1:1 just leaves room for more. It's why people keep saying strange things on the main forums. Musketeer>SCH, and even worse, MRD > SAM. It's like they're not even trying. Just sounds provincial to me. Ronin > SAM. Hell, Calculator > SCH (Doubtful, just an example, relax.) would be accepted by many. Since they've already chosen this path, they shouldn't take any developmental shortcuts, just because you don't want to level a new class and wish to jump into the job.

I see your point, and I admit my judgment may be clouded by how much I love FFT, but I think the idea of unlocking new jobs from combinations of the base classes is a more fun way to do things. It gives people the satisfaction of getting to play around on a few of the base classes while still working toward their greater goal of unlocking the job they really want to play. I see it as a win-win from both a player and developer standpoint.

Edited, May 31st 2013 12:34am by schneiderw

FFT is my #1 Final Fantasy title as stated in the Best of the Best thread. I'm just having a hard time seeing the connection outside having access to multiple jobs on one character. While I agree with the fun in unlocking jobs, this game is more like 'Adding 5 new abilities' to a class and solidifying a specific role.

When I leveled Archer, Thief and Geomancer, I was awarded with an all new job, Ninja. Knight, Monk and Dragoon gave me Samurai. So while I agree that's fun, it isn't how FFXIV works. With the exception of Bard, most of the classes still remain remarkably close to their job purpose wise. Since we're FFT lovers, take Squire for example. It can use swords, but when you unlock Knight, you are awarded with an entire skill set devoted to Knight. Not Squire with a sprinkle of Knight abilities, which describes the FFXIV system. Unlocking from a combination of having the required level and turning a class into a job are very different. There are so many weapon types. Maces and Rapiers for example. Wouldn't it be better to create something new with those? Rather than merging old classes and recycling the same weapons? Which is how the game currently works. It may or may not change in time. So I'm just working with what we have now.

I have no idea how things with progress in the future. It's just a personal concern of mine. I enjoy combat, and progression that enhances the combat experience.

In FF11, it was a hybrid of black mage and white mage and could switch between a nuking role and a healing role in the field.

In FF14, you can pretty much already switch between black mage and white mage in the field simply by switching weapons, so we're not really sure what exactly the Scholar job is going to bring to the table yet.