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The JP FFXIV Twitter account posted some pics this morning..Follow

#1 Apr 16 2013 at 7:19 AM Rating: Excellent
Kiss your TP goodbye, lolibiri are back!


#2 Apr 16 2013 at 7:24 AM Rating: Good
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Hold my Gay bulge!

Edit: I hope they are still very to piercing! 7 DRG 1 WHM GO!

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 6:13pm by GDLYL
#3 Apr 16 2013 at 7:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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those food-stealing jerks!
#4 Apr 16 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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#5 Apr 16 2013 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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This makes me incredibly happy for unexplainable reasons.

#6 Apr 16 2013 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
olaurelindorenan wrote:
those food-stealing jerks!

LOL I forgot about that!
#8 Apr 16 2013 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
They didn't reuse FFXI's .DAT.

FFXI's Version.

[Edited because apparently the person I was responding to got removed.]

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 7:35am by UltKnightGrover
#9 Apr 16 2013 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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No! Mah TPz.... and foodz!!

Did colibri wings always look like paddles?
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#10 Apr 16 2013 at 9:09 AM Rating: Default
UltKnightGrover wrote:
They didn't reuse FFXI's .DAT.

FFXI's Version.

[Edited because apparently the person I was responding to got removed.]

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 7:35am by UltKnightGrover

... it looks the same to me!! I'm not trying to be snarky LOL.
#11 Apr 16 2013 at 9:12 AM Rating: Excellent
So do these make you mad/worried as well?

#12 Apr 16 2013 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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So do these make you mad/worried as well?
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Yes he does, because that's his caricature.
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#13 Apr 16 2013 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
Not really. For monster designs, I'm not really bothered by them being reused. It just seemed like Colibri is even using the same .DAT, lol. The Goblin looks good.

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 11:17am by Killua125
#14 Apr 16 2013 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
I admit I'm not an expert on 3D modeling but the XIV mobs look definitely different than the XI ones. Maybe that's just me though. I'd love to see some mob models from other games than just XI too. Gremlins from XIII come to mind.
#15 Apr 16 2013 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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They're more slender than they were in XI.

Trust me, I've pulled many thousands of those little pink bastards. The model is just a bit different.
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#16 Apr 16 2013 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
Well, aesthetically they look the same. For example, the FFXIV and FFXI models for the Goblins, Cactuars, and Colibri definitely have the same design.

But I seriously doubt they just copied and pasted the .DAT without making improvements to account for the higher-res textures of FFXIV ARR's graphics engine and higher specifications for the animations etc...

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 8:24am by UltKnightGrover
#17 Apr 16 2013 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Its not like they are going to create ALL NEW monsters for the game. Reusing monsters and character profiles is a necessity in the Final Fantasy world. If you want I can pull up all the Cactuars from every Final Fantasy game who all look identical down to the 2D upper-cut dance moves...

I say, as long as its a cool monster and not something stupid that has no purpose or connection to the environment. Then they can reuse all they want. Of course, they should have some original ideas too, which ARR has done very nicely.

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Edited, Apr 16th 2013 11:54am by WFOAssassin
#18 Apr 16 2013 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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Just pulled the images into photoshop and layered them over one another, scaled them to the same size, and saw nearly zero difference in the models (even the texturing looks to be the same). It may have more vertices or something like that, but they were definitely created from the same original model (the smaller spikes further up on the tail even matched up identically). The beak might be slightly more "squished" but it's hard to tell because the angles aren't 100% identical, personally I think even that is the same or so close it's not really up for debate. The comment about them being "slimmer" is incorrect, as I have just looked at them pixel-for-pixel on top of one another and the bodies match perfectly (of course in game this will probably vary depending what your graphics are set to, I.E 16:9 vs 16:10 creates slimmer or wider models)

That being said... I have no problem with this, for the reasons stated before - it's an FF mob, we expect to see heavy crossover of mobs throughout the series. I would like to see some different "interpretations" of these mobs though, for example - in new areas it'd be nice to see colibri that aren't simply re-colors, but instead take on a different appearance in other ways. Some examples might be giving different breeds larger spikes, shorter beaks, giant wings, multiple wings, multiple tails, no tail, wide-finned tails, etc.

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As long as they weren't just coppied in for the sake of a fillter-quest that involves killing 15 colibri or "go kill colibri and bring me 15 feathers" etc... I'm fine with it. I have this lingering feeling that we are going to see mobs just copypastad into the game en-masse and shown to the public in the next few months simply to fill grind quest holes as more of the game's "content" is "filled in".

What frustrates me is that FFXI had this really open world feel to it where you could explore and kill as you pleased, with some events here and there to really give you an experience to remember and challenges to overcome with friends. What I don't want to see is the game cheapened by eliminating the "go out and explore the world" feeling and replacing it with "do this fetch-quest then the next fetch-quest, then the next-fetch quest, and eventually you'll see everything out of necessity instead of curiosity".

I do feel FFXI should have had a "few" more obvious quest options available from levels 1-30 to just showcase what the game had to offer for a new player, but after that I'd like to just be "set free" into the world where I can explore what I want. I'm hoping FFXIV takes that approach, but from what I've seen so far, it doesn't look likely.
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#19 Apr 16 2013 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
I wish I could reply, but I can't remember what I saw in my hands on versus (NDA) so I'm going to have to stay mum on this Smiley: motz
#20 Apr 16 2013 at 11:57 AM Rating: Default
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yup the colibri and goblin on FFXIV look exactly the game as FFXI with just (obviously) better graphics.. which is 100% fine with me...

I mean Ifrit and Shiva look the same in almost EVERY final fantasy game with just better graphics as well right?
#21 Apr 16 2013 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
Not for XIV anyway


#22 Apr 16 2013 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, those two look nothing like I can remember from other games. I like them but Ifrit is way to skinny for my taste. Clearly he is strong but at first glance your like, I can probably cut through his joints with a well-placed Great Axe or Sword.
#23 Apr 16 2013 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, those two look nothing like I can remember from other games. I like them but Ifrit is way to skinny for my taste. Clearly he is strong but at first glance your like, I can probably cut through his joints with a well-placed Great Axe or Sword.

FFXII also branched away from the usual with Espers, but they didn't share names at least.
#24 Apr 16 2013 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
Ifirt had looked alike up until FF IX in X he was a wolfish more akin to the one in XIV
#25 Apr 16 2013 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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If they're going to place monsters in the game from other games. It should surely be from their own games. Makes them original in a sense does it not? As long as their lore and skin is open to being modified.

Person A: Hey why is there magitek in this game?
Person B:Because it's from the Final Fantasy franchise.

Person A: Hey why is there Cid in this game?
Person B: Because he is in the Final Fantasy Franchise.

Person A: Hey why is their summons in this game?
Person B: Because they are in the Final Fantasy franchise.

Person A: But that's not original, they are stealing stuff from other games.
Person B: ..... You're right!
#26 Apr 16 2013 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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olaurelindorenan wrote:
those food-stealing jerks!

As a cook in FFXI, I enjoyed those pink birdies.... made quite a bit of money from people. as well as other cooks did as well.
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