I make this post to make other dynamis LS, as new possible members, to know about the behaviour of this ls that doesnt check the calendar when choosing where to go, as they had scheduled sandy and went to jeuno http://forum.spikeflail.org/forums/calendar.php , where our ls had it scheduled since november 2008 (we have scheduled all our runs for 2009 till then)
the name of this LS being under knoledge of what they were doing is this:
achmed
avigalk
christy (leader)
draliont
eibon
elisis
enridi
jetan
loffi
malvegil
maxsix
onimusha
raijinx
tloa
zatoichi
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OHHHHHH, the Irony. LOL
Sweet, sweet delicious irony.....
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ic, since these are all the replies we are going to get then that means ***** the calendar ? :S
No hate for meteor ?
No hate for meteor ?
Well, I seem to recall there being a tread on the SF boards that said something to the effect of "This calendar is not absolute," And it's quite true. Sucks when people steal namis, but considering that you can't claim it to begin with, it's technically not stealing. The calendar exists so people aren't total douches about which zones they take.
tl;dr- Ironic, yes. Stolen Dynamis, it happens.
tl;dr- Ironic, yes. Stolen Dynamis, it happens.
degejk wrote:
ic, since these are all the replies we are going to get then that means ***** the calendar ? :S
No hate for meteor ?
No hate for meteor ?
No, it's just ironic that a linkshell that had problems stealing dynamis zones from other people is now having dynamis zones being stolen from them.
Use the Ragnarok Dynamis Calendar and show some respect to the people that scheduled their runs for certain zones. Do not be a douchebag.
It's a real cruddy thing what they are doing, what really got us angry about the whole ordeal with starsmakers was the way you guys fought back.
Also... what is really funny about all this, is you complain about a run that you guys had taken by them when they had some other zone scheduled, when, on January wed the 14th, you had bastok down on the calendar, while w00t had jueno. We get on and low and behold, you guys are in dynamis jeuno.... We ended up doing a bastok run.
Ironic and hypocritical...
Edited, Feb 2nd 2009 5:24pm by Tokyorose
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where to go, as they had scheduled sandy and went to jeuno http://forum.spikeflail.org/forums/calendar.php , where our ls had it scheduled since november 2008 (we have scheduled all our runs for 2009 till then)
Also... what is really funny about all this, is you complain about a run that you guys had taken by them when they had some other zone scheduled, when, on January wed the 14th, you had bastok down on the calendar, while w00t had jueno. We get on and low and behold, you guys are in dynamis jeuno.... We ended up doing a bastok run.
Ironic and hypocritical...
Edited, Feb 2nd 2009 5:24pm by Tokyorose
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but we offered ourselves to exit the area, since there was only 20 mins left when u guys arrived ¬¬
We waited there for a while, and from what you guys told us, we would have to wait about an hour before you guys got out. We ended up getting into bastok an hour later than our gathering time, while you guys were still in dynamis.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2009 11:32pm by Tokyorose
Edited, Feb 2nd 2009 11:32pm by Tokyorose
Sorry about the double post, internet is funky here...
Edited, Feb 3rd 2009 11:56am by Icefloe
Edited, Feb 3rd 2009 11:56am by Icefloe
I'm officially on vacation. I'm not posting on this until I get back from Grenada... But in any case Lionze, did you talk to their leaders yet? (the reason I'm not blasting Lionze just yet, is because this definitely can affect the rest of the LS that run at this time if the other LS decides to take the same course of action.
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tokyorose, if u have to inform someone inform the leader, cuz no one told me u were outside till one of us zoned outside, then i told my ls to get out to let you in, but you was already gone to bastok, then is when some LS members told that they got /t asking for our time remaining, so i suggest to make better comunications between shells.
About you ice, i hope u enjoying Grenada, its a beutiful place (hope u liked the Alhambra!), i dont think Blasting me again is no longer needed, we were blasted for other LS in the past for the reason of not using th calendar, so if someone is to be blasted now is Meteor Strike, so i dont think it is neccesary, this post was made for the only intention of inform others LS as u said.
I´ve seen shouts in aht Urghan about new Dynamis LS that wanna make runs at the same time, and the calendar is pretty busy, so i can see many threads like this coming soon.
With this i wanna say i dont want any LS to have to go tru what we had to, but even if you dont like me, this is a thing that affect us all and we should try to find a solution, and avoid fighting between us
Edited, Feb 4th 2009 10:02am by Lionze
Edited, Feb 4th 2009 10:04am by Lionze
About you ice, i hope u enjoying Grenada, its a beutiful place (hope u liked the Alhambra!), i dont think Blasting me again is no longer needed, we were blasted for other LS in the past for the reason of not using th calendar, so if someone is to be blasted now is Meteor Strike, so i dont think it is neccesary, this post was made for the only intention of inform others LS as u said.
I´ve seen shouts in aht Urghan about new Dynamis LS that wanna make runs at the same time, and the calendar is pretty busy, so i can see many threads like this coming soon.
With this i wanna say i dont want any LS to have to go tru what we had to, but even if you dont like me, this is a thing that affect us all and we should try to find a solution, and avoid fighting between us
Edited, Feb 4th 2009 10:02am by Lionze
Edited, Feb 4th 2009 10:04am by Lionze
So how mature of all of you saying "Oh the Irony", Starsmaker has been following the Calendar nicely for months now, that Jeuno-Bastok thing mentioned in January wasnt a steal of anything we were finishing and ready to go out if needed. We have waited other ls to end zones a bit, I think theres some room of courtesy there.
Guess you all will be loling again when Meteor Strike steals one of your dynamis?
So please grow up a bit, I wasnt in the ls back when there were the calendar issues, but I know that for the months Ive been in Starsmaker we have followed the calendar well.
Guess you all will be loling again when Meteor Strike steals one of your dynamis?
So please grow up a bit, I wasnt in the ls back when there were the calendar issues, but I know that for the months Ive been in Starsmaker we have followed the calendar well.
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They did it again. This time, they posted his run some hours before the run. The same run as us, again. And they don't have posted the next run yet (Sunday). We are trying to play nicely, and we got no real events in 2 days thanks to them. If we can't do our scheduled runs, we will forced to do at Japanese mode. And we don't want to ***** all the calendar... ><
Edited, Feb 4th 2009 7:12pm by kimem
Edited, Feb 4th 2009 7:12pm by kimem
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Hi,I'm playing Dynamis since the linkshell called "starsmaker" was a lil group
of 10-15 ppl & was called "Dynamite". We always try to set with time our runs at calendar (as many LS as yours did).But still making reserves with time (since november'08) & coming to the place asap,those guys has stolen our runs 2 times in a week. Let's make something about it because today's our runs,but maybe tomorrow'll be yours.
I don't wanna make a drama of this & don't wanna intimidate or provoke someone
with my words,but remember why's a calendar for Dynamis events.
Take care & look out with your dynamis events ;D
of 10-15 ppl & was called "Dynamite". We always try to set with time our runs at calendar (as many LS as yours did).But still making reserves with time (since november'08) & coming to the place asap,those guys has stolen our runs 2 times in a week. Let's make something about it because today's our runs,but maybe tomorrow'll be yours.
I don't wanna make a drama of this & don't wanna intimidate or provoke someone
with my words,but remember why's a calendar for Dynamis events.
Take care & look out with your dynamis events ;D
Dear Lionze,
Please stop complaining about people stealing your zones. Thats like calling the kettle black. Now from what I hear you dont give a flying #$&^ if you steal someone else's zone but when it happened to you you whine, cry, and complain here? of all places? are you that retarded that you dont see the hypocrisy as to what youre talking about? Please enlighten me.
Please stop complaining about people stealing your zones. Thats like calling the kettle black. Now from what I hear you dont give a flying #$&^ if you steal someone else's zone but when it happened to you you whine, cry, and complain here? of all places? are you that retarded that you dont see the hypocrisy as to what youre talking about? Please enlighten me.
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Even when is not adressed to me
Dear Grandier
A Dynamis ls consist of more than one ppl so if you have some personal hate for Lionze please store it inside yourself, besides the current starsmakers have few members left from the time that we didn't use the calendar ( for one i joined about one month after they started using the calendar)
The issue here is meteor strike has stolen dynamis from strarsmakers twice in a row , it can be a coincidence but as they say "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". Meteor strike scheudeleched a run without enought time to do a clear this wednesday and just plainly stole jeuno last sunday ( on a side note they told us their scheudeleched sandoria for last sunday was stolen so there might be another dynamis Ls on the wild around).
Since the calendar is worth crap, and is not me but people from this forum who is asserting this, the only thing we can do is to post it here and complain to see if there can be a pacific solution.
I ought to remember you that the case with meteor strike is not the same as what happened with starmakers some months ago, starsmakers wasn't following the calendar at all BUT meteor is supposed to be following it and yet they use it to scheudeleche runs that clash with other ls's . Should starmakers scheudeleche runs 1 hour before others? since we start at 23 gmt+1 and there are a few that starts at 00:00 we can take the zones for ourselves like meteor strike is doing ? If we are not done when the other ls is out ,well too bad for them.
So far it seems like meteor strike has something against us but maybe next week they will steal someone else's dynamis, i hope at that time if they complain here you will tell them to "stop complaining".
My conclusion is that the calendar , flawed and not fair as it is , is a good system but if it's going to be used against us ( is super easy to steal a run from someone on the calendar going to the zone 1 hour earlier) and if the community is going to laught at our troubles for personal differences of the past then i will suggest my leaders , mind you i am only a regular member, to stop using it since it works against us.
PS : To me the calendar is not fair becouse new shells find that most zones are taken when they join the calendar, but i understand there's no way to work around it.
Dear Grandier
A Dynamis ls consist of more than one ppl so if you have some personal hate for Lionze please store it inside yourself, besides the current starsmakers have few members left from the time that we didn't use the calendar ( for one i joined about one month after they started using the calendar)
The issue here is meteor strike has stolen dynamis from strarsmakers twice in a row , it can be a coincidence but as they say "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". Meteor strike scheudeleched a run without enought time to do a clear this wednesday and just plainly stole jeuno last sunday ( on a side note they told us their scheudeleched sandoria for last sunday was stolen so there might be another dynamis Ls on the wild around).
Since the calendar is worth crap, and is not me but people from this forum who is asserting this, the only thing we can do is to post it here and complain to see if there can be a pacific solution.
I ought to remember you that the case with meteor strike is not the same as what happened with starmakers some months ago, starsmakers wasn't following the calendar at all BUT meteor is supposed to be following it and yet they use it to scheudeleche runs that clash with other ls's . Should starmakers scheudeleche runs 1 hour before others? since we start at 23 gmt+1 and there are a few that starts at 00:00 we can take the zones for ourselves like meteor strike is doing ? If we are not done when the other ls is out ,well too bad for them.
So far it seems like meteor strike has something against us but maybe next week they will steal someone else's dynamis, i hope at that time if they complain here you will tell them to "stop complaining".
My conclusion is that the calendar , flawed and not fair as it is , is a good system but if it's going to be used against us ( is super easy to steal a run from someone on the calendar going to the zone 1 hour earlier) and if the community is going to laught at our troubles for personal differences of the past then i will suggest my leaders , mind you i am only a regular member, to stop using it since it works against us.
PS : To me the calendar is not fair becouse new shells find that most zones are taken when they join the calendar, but i understand there's no way to work around it.
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she is very bad informed
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1hDFa9
btw guys, u call hipocrisy for asking for help when u attaked us for not using the calendar before, trying to put us down, but i dont call hipocrisy to support and give refuge to others doing the same, i find that a direct attack to the calendar, to me and my ls and also to your own ls, keep supporting not using the calendar then
Edited, Feb 5th 2009 4:15pm by Lionze
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1hDFa9
btw guys, u call hipocrisy for asking for help when u attaked us for not using the calendar before, trying to put us down, but i dont call hipocrisy to support and give refuge to others doing the same, i find that a direct attack to the calendar, to me and my ls and also to your own ls, keep supporting not using the calendar then
Edited, Feb 5th 2009 4:15pm by Lionze
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I am outta this ls, i think i am on blacklist off Chirsty now, but better on blacklist of 1-2 ppl then of a large number of ppl
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Thx for the pic Senaca, it cleared what we all in Starsmaker suspected, Meteor Strike is after us intentionally. We are atm in a possition of waiting to see if things are cleared without blood spilling.
I have to say that i have been in this LS for not a very long time, but all the ppl that forms part of it are GREAT players and even greater persons. I dont really care for what happened in the past for i was not a member and even if i were the evolution of our LS is clear and honorable, and if u cant see that either you are a 12 year old (at least mentally) or you are just jealous.
We are trying to get thru this like the grown up persons we are (proof of it is that we let Meteor Strike do as they pleased not once, but 2 times) but if we are forced to ***** the calendar and furthermore ***** other LSs that like ours are doing a great job following the calendar we will do so, im with my lider 100%.
If we send the calendar to hell in the next week it will be the time for you to think that... would some retribution had been taken against Meteor instead of throwing all your hate and past ghosts at us that thing would not have happened (even though it will be too late for regreting).
Its not an ultimatum but if we get our run stolen again this sunday we will no longer follow the calendar for it will be our 2nd week looking at the Trail Markings... and in my opinion this is not what a Dynamis LS is supposed to be doing, we are supposed to... dont know... kill in Dynamis and such...
I am not talking in Lionze's name, im not even a sack, just a regular player, but i know Lionze for a while now and im positive that hes thinking exactly the same.
PD: Note that i didnt insult any person that posted offensively at us.
PD2: That may be because i think you are just retarded and not worth it.
PD3: Hmmm, well i think that counts as an insult ;P
I have to say that i have been in this LS for not a very long time, but all the ppl that forms part of it are GREAT players and even greater persons. I dont really care for what happened in the past for i was not a member and even if i were the evolution of our LS is clear and honorable, and if u cant see that either you are a 12 year old (at least mentally) or you are just jealous.
We are trying to get thru this like the grown up persons we are (proof of it is that we let Meteor Strike do as they pleased not once, but 2 times) but if we are forced to ***** the calendar and furthermore ***** other LSs that like ours are doing a great job following the calendar we will do so, im with my lider 100%.
If we send the calendar to hell in the next week it will be the time for you to think that... would some retribution had been taken against Meteor instead of throwing all your hate and past ghosts at us that thing would not have happened (even though it will be too late for regreting).
Its not an ultimatum but if we get our run stolen again this sunday we will no longer follow the calendar for it will be our 2nd week looking at the Trail Markings... and in my opinion this is not what a Dynamis LS is supposed to be doing, we are supposed to... dont know... kill in Dynamis and such...
I am not talking in Lionze's name, im not even a sack, just a regular player, but i know Lionze for a while now and im positive that hes thinking exactly the same.
PD: Note that i didnt insult any person that posted offensively at us.
PD2: That may be because i think you are just retarded and not worth it.
PD3: Hmmm, well i think that counts as an insult ;P
I don't think I have seen a word butchered as much as the spelling of the word scheduled.
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thanks for your comment xbobbobx it really helps the point of the topic, on a side note next time i will just write the post in my native language so i won't go around butchering words.
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Its not an ultimatum but if we get our run stolen again this sunday we will no longer follow the calendar for it will be our 2nd week looking at the Trail Markings... and in my opinion this is not what a Dynamis LS is supposed to be doing, we are supposed to... dont know... kill in Dynamis and such...
Are you serious? So you are telling me, you guys have had a ls steal a couple of runs... and you guys are intending to drop the ls calendar? because of one ls??? You might not have been in the linkshell for a long time, but you guys did the same thing to several linkshells for months before you started using the calendar. Which started this whole drama thread, please feel free to read it:
original thread:http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=53;mid=121746714775178750#m122153043123047860
Lionze response:http://http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=53;mid=1221506522152845768#m122152735122858179
If you want to complicate things further, and be looked with more negativity, fine, then don't use the calendar. The reason we haven't chastised Meteor strike much is the fact that they haven't been doing this for months and no other linkshell has had the problem. If you stop using the calendar, you will only annoy the people who actually do.
Here's an idea: Why dont you just take the runs that they schedule if they continue to take your runs? You would only annoy them and not annoy other linkshells.
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tokyo ur idea is like. let them keep doing the same, and go to another area, No way!
We are on a scheduled calendar for one year, biuld in NOVEMBER, stop covering them, and start taking action, because we havent been doing dynamis to dont **** others, we are respecting other ls´s.
We are happy on the calendar, but we are tired of finding attacks whenever we act good or bad, it seems like you dont mind how we act, looks like you just wanna fight against us. and yes, if this keeps this way, we will drop the calendar, and then dont accuse us, accuse urselves for not doing nothing and laugh at us being lazy.
It is funny becaouse those LS that hated us and hated me "Lionze" asked me for help and i never denied, offering ourselves to help them anytime it was needed, and now they dont move a finger with our recent problem (and your future problem)
You call hipocrisy the fact that we are requesting this ls (meteor strike) to be under similar actions that were taken against us time before, but hipocrisy is also to have taken those aggresive attack against us, trying to put us down, whising us to break the pearl for stealing dynamis, and cover those that are doing the same and give refuge to their actions, trying to support them on keep being doing the same to us, but yeah you can still call me hipocrisy, I dont mind being called in any way, cuz im only 1 person of a large list of ppl that forms Starsmaker, ppl that is as affected as Im, and ppl that are great persons, some of those probably are your friends too, so dont missunderstand Lionze as a person than starsmakers, cuz starsmakers is not only lionze.
and like it was told before, there was a BIG difference, we didnt know of the existence of the calendar untill we were ATTACKED with insults and aggresive behaviour against us, and that annoyed us and was the cause we joined the calendar lately, we spent months to get to do the dynamis we wanted because it was all taken, and we did it right!, they are on the calendar from the very beggining of their start. and still they do what they want being conscient of their actions.
So keep applausing them for stealing our runs, you may think it is fun, but having fun of this, is just another attack to the calendar, to us as LS, and to yourselves. then when they steal ur runs, we could say SWEET IRONY
Edited, Feb 6th 2009 11:00am by Lionze
We are on a scheduled calendar for one year, biuld in NOVEMBER, stop covering them, and start taking action, because we havent been doing dynamis to dont **** others, we are respecting other ls´s.
We are happy on the calendar, but we are tired of finding attacks whenever we act good or bad, it seems like you dont mind how we act, looks like you just wanna fight against us. and yes, if this keeps this way, we will drop the calendar, and then dont accuse us, accuse urselves for not doing nothing and laugh at us being lazy.
It is funny becaouse those LS that hated us and hated me "Lionze" asked me for help and i never denied, offering ourselves to help them anytime it was needed, and now they dont move a finger with our recent problem (and your future problem)
You call hipocrisy the fact that we are requesting this ls (meteor strike) to be under similar actions that were taken against us time before, but hipocrisy is also to have taken those aggresive attack against us, trying to put us down, whising us to break the pearl for stealing dynamis, and cover those that are doing the same and give refuge to their actions, trying to support them on keep being doing the same to us, but yeah you can still call me hipocrisy, I dont mind being called in any way, cuz im only 1 person of a large list of ppl that forms Starsmaker, ppl that is as affected as Im, and ppl that are great persons, some of those probably are your friends too, so dont missunderstand Lionze as a person than starsmakers, cuz starsmakers is not only lionze.
and like it was told before, there was a BIG difference, we didnt know of the existence of the calendar untill we were ATTACKED with insults and aggresive behaviour against us, and that annoyed us and was the cause we joined the calendar lately, we spent months to get to do the dynamis we wanted because it was all taken, and we did it right!, they are on the calendar from the very beggining of their start. and still they do what they want being conscient of their actions.
So keep applausing them for stealing our runs, you may think it is fun, but having fun of this, is just another attack to the calendar, to us as LS, and to yourselves. then when they steal ur runs, we could say SWEET IRONY
Edited, Feb 6th 2009 11:00am by Lionze
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Dear Tokyorose
You are still denying some facts I stated earlier so I will put em again here just for you :
- The current starmakers is mostly new members ( members that joined after the incident where starsmakers was not using the calendar).
- While Lionze is our leader Starmakers is not 40 lionze's .There're a lot of ppl in Starsmakers not guilty of anything so the "sweet irony" comments some of the members of ths forums ( and users of the calendar ) make are not exactly encouraging us to trust the calendar community.
- You are missing the point that your lovely drama threads about Starsmakers being filthy dynamis thieves happened when starsmakers was NOT part of the calendar , on the other hand Meteor Strike is a member of the calendar and is not honouring it.
- Taking the runs from MeteorStrike is not an option, meteor strike puts their run really late ( as of now they do not have a run for next sunday) and then they just mark in the calendar that they are doing the same area we are doing 1 or 2 hours before our run.
As i said before , and other members here mentioned the same thing , is that the calendar is worth crap , SE doesn't recognize it in any way so the only way for it to work properly is if everyone that is a member of it respects the other Ls's. Meteor strike stole our runs not once but twice so we came to the community and asked for a solution, most of the answers can be translated to HAHAHA you deserve it!.
Next time if it happens to your Ls i hope you get a more mature and appropiate answer.
You are still denying some facts I stated earlier so I will put em again here just for you :
- The current starmakers is mostly new members ( members that joined after the incident where starsmakers was not using the calendar).
- While Lionze is our leader Starmakers is not 40 lionze's .There're a lot of ppl in Starsmakers not guilty of anything so the "sweet irony" comments some of the members of ths forums ( and users of the calendar ) make are not exactly encouraging us to trust the calendar community.
- You are missing the point that your lovely drama threads about Starsmakers being filthy dynamis thieves happened when starsmakers was NOT part of the calendar , on the other hand Meteor Strike is a member of the calendar and is not honouring it.
- Taking the runs from MeteorStrike is not an option, meteor strike puts their run really late ( as of now they do not have a run for next sunday) and then they just mark in the calendar that they are doing the same area we are doing 1 or 2 hours before our run.
As i said before , and other members here mentioned the same thing , is that the calendar is worth crap , SE doesn't recognize it in any way so the only way for it to work properly is if everyone that is a member of it respects the other Ls's. Meteor strike stole our runs not once but twice so we came to the community and asked for a solution, most of the answers can be translated to HAHAHA you deserve it!.
Next time if it happens to your Ls i hope you get a more mature and appropiate answer.
what more do you what us to do? We've been warned about it. Theres nothing else we can do. The only reason the drama started was that you guys posted on the post about you
For your information, my own brother was in your ls before all the drama started with. He, I, and a few other of starmakers members told you guys before the insults started. The first run that you guys stole from W00t we weren't rude. We informed you guys, and you yourself was rude to us out of nowhere.
THATS what started the rudeness and drama.
degejk, i wasn't talking about anything YOU said. I was commenting on pax.
HE said you guys would stop using the calendar. I said that would only make the matters worse.What you are picking out of my last post has nothing to do with any of your other posts.
I dont think you realize why i posted the threads in my last post. It was to show why there was so much drama involved in those threads. Meteor strike hasnt posted anything in response to this thread. Nothing hateful, angry, and we haven't even heard their side of the story. thats the reason there isnt much anger directed to them. Maybe if they decide to post their side of the argument, similar to what happened between pre calendar using starsmakers and other linkshells, then theres actually hate sent there way.
ATM we have been warned about them and will be sure to watch out for them, thats all we really can do.
But thanks for the heads up.
***theres no way you guys can fix this, our ls has a similar problem with dynamis runs on sunday mornings (we go at an early time for us, so we get out northlands stolen by a lot of jp/eu shells) . although we try to not let it happen, (by trying to get in before they do) a lot of times we end up just gettin screwed and have to find any free places available. No other way for you guys to dela with it other than trying to talk to leader some more. try to find out what runs they intend to do the rest of the month.
Edited, Feb 6th 2009 2:36pm by Tokyorose
For your information, my own brother was in your ls before all the drama started with. He, I, and a few other of starmakers members told you guys before the insults started. The first run that you guys stole from W00t we weren't rude. We informed you guys, and you yourself was rude to us out of nowhere.
THATS what started the rudeness and drama.
degejk, i wasn't talking about anything YOU said. I was commenting on pax.
HE said you guys would stop using the calendar. I said that would only make the matters worse.What you are picking out of my last post has nothing to do with any of your other posts.
I dont think you realize why i posted the threads in my last post. It was to show why there was so much drama involved in those threads. Meteor strike hasnt posted anything in response to this thread. Nothing hateful, angry, and we haven't even heard their side of the story. thats the reason there isnt much anger directed to them. Maybe if they decide to post their side of the argument, similar to what happened between pre calendar using starsmakers and other linkshells, then theres actually hate sent there way.
ATM we have been warned about them and will be sure to watch out for them, thats all we really can do.
But thanks for the heads up.
***theres no way you guys can fix this, our ls has a similar problem with dynamis runs on sunday mornings (we go at an early time for us, so we get out northlands stolen by a lot of jp/eu shells) . although we try to not let it happen, (by trying to get in before they do) a lot of times we end up just gettin screwed and have to find any free places available. No other way for you guys to dela with it other than trying to talk to leader some more. try to find out what runs they intend to do the rest of the month.
Edited, Feb 6th 2009 2:36pm by Tokyorose
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