And yet another warningFollow

More nm thfs. This time serket. A bunch of people in GC as per usual, an ls gets claim, has it down to about 50 percent health and another ls steals it.

Surprisingly this was not gil sellers.

Sad thing is other ls tried to mpk them by pulling abunch of skeletons which in turn killed alot of other people.

The ls name started with oni, something like onieki or something like that. Only persons name i remember was Kourtney.

So if you know this person or this ls this person is in, be prepared for them to steal your claim or at least try and steal your claim.

Just sad.

maybe, but wasnt with all teh other gil sellers.

Doesn't the LSFallenangel, AKA DoctorLS, I have seen them running around with WarChild as their LS now.

Hey Shuffles Lets' start a LS called, PoliceForce

I'll have my Bst to 75 asap.

just to clear some stuff up.

1. Kourtney is in my LS, Onigiri. Some of the ppl from his setpt are not in our LS though.

2. Kourtney is not a gil seller. I have talked to him numerous times and have gotten to know him over time.

Just because his sub is underleveled, should not be automatiaclly assumed that he is a gilseller.

Here's what he said happened, from his own words.

1. Serket pops, RDM Irina claims it because it pops facing him.
2. Kourtney vokes it
3. A nin named "Hitme" trains lots of skeletons up to them and uses 2hr
4. crap hits the fan

I don't know what else happened after that, because I wasn't there. But you have my word that kourney is NOT a gilseller, nor MPKer.

Any objection needs to be directed to me or Yunie. Kourtney's english isn't good, that's why. We constantly need to communicate in chinese or japanese kanji.


Edited, Thu Jun 30 00:37:25 2005 by gaidensensei

Kourtney was with the gil sellers at Charybdis..but well he's an idiot and died in 2 hits so they all got whacked 1 by 1 ;x

"1. Serket pops, RDM Irina claims it because it pops facing him.
2. Kourtney vokes it
3. A nin named "Hitme" trains lots of skeletons up to them and uses 2hr
4. crap hits the fan "

Its funny when people lie to defend themselves. Not sure what ls Irina is in. But between number 1 and 2 insert 5 mins. And it was not Kourtney's ls that won claim.

Yes alot of skeletons were trained to kill them, because well they deserve to die, if i ever see them fighting a hnm, i will do everything i can to make sure they die cause they have not earned the right to fight hnm until they get a conscience and ethics.

Sure two wrongs dont make a right, but makes me sleep better at night.

I know that he plays and hangs out often with the gil sellers because simply their english isn't good enough to net them in a standard NA PT, while they don't even know how to speak japanese except for reading kanji.

That's the reason why I believe that he plays with the real gil-sellers, because they're the only clostest group that can communicate with them. I know that he plays with some group that do not live in China, instead in HK (through word of mouth). This group I can't remember all the members from the top of my head, but Irina, Zenas, Windsor, Marylyn, Ricohard are a few that I can remember.

Not that I am defending them, but the opposite side should be considered for once. I mean like put yourself in their shoes, how/ what would you be doing not able to speak the two main languages of ffxi, and constantly barring yourself from the main society?

They're able to speak in plain chinese very simply, I know this for certain because they invited me to fight Admantking the other day. As I was in their pt (real gilsellers were in the alliance too), I watched how they communicated the whole time. Just like any other NA pt.

How did I find out that Kourtney wasn't a gil seller?
Well, I asked twice.

First time before he was even let into the LS, we decided to test them out before inviting them in first. They asked if they could join. I asked using my mule in chinese regarding if he knew where people would sell gil or if he sells any as well. His reply was no, and he did not know of anyone. The main dude of their ls, Zenas, told me the same as well. Then I asked nozokimi, and it's confirmed that he's a gilseller because he replied back saying his prices and stuff.

Later on when they came in, which was a few weeks later, I asked again but this time on my char. I got the same replies back from both of them.


Granted, I don't know what happened at Serket, but can you put in details of your own words what happened?

I will tell him not to steal stuff. It should be common sense to most players already. He will deserve a boot from the LS soon, if I hear of him doing this again.


As for serket, I dunno really, but picturing the scene again in a room with 50+ people camping waiting for it to pop, it gets claimed, goes white for a split second, lots of other LS's standing about cursing of losing the claim, how many of those people here would not actually try to attempt to claim it if they saw it go unclaimed? It seems like from what I'm hearing here is that most people would not try to attempt to claim it for themselves, knowing it takes a day to repop?


Edited, Thu Jun 30 15:15:23 2005 by gaidensensei

HEY HEY HEY NOW GUYS!! lets not be unfair and unruly! after all we are under the assumption that the DoctorLS have just the same chance of being gil sellers as your best friend! lets not go labeling certain groups and slandering them since there is no real way of knowing wether or not they are! SHAME on US! ;)

oh hey on a side note gaid i'd like to prove something...make a new acct, and ask me if im a gil seller (which im not...) and juuust to make a point ill reply yes. ask me a second time and ill reply yes.

...ask a gil seller if he's a gil seller...whats stopping him from replying no? is he verbally shackled to the honesty and truthfulness of society? I THINK NOT!

-sorry for the sarcasm

edit: just wanted to say yeah it's wrong and no i'd never steal an NM, as for box...when did a bst ever mpk??? oops...DCed...apparently im a bit ocd with ctrl alt and esc..

Edited, Thu Jun 30 15:52:06 2005 by Matsume

Ok the situation was when Serket popped 2 nights ago, on Tuesday. My HNMLS TheCrew is fairly new and dont have fighting worked down to a complete science yet but we're working on it... anyway we claim Serket and get it down to about 1/2 life. Then one of our tanks disengages and it goes white for a split second. All of a sudden we cannot land hits or spells anymore and we see Kourtney dragging Serket away form where we were fighting it. It took another 15 mins or so of Kourtney hacking at it for it to die. In the meantime, some of the members of the DoctorLS dragged about 5-6 fallens (skeletons) to the area where Serket was, and people started dying. My LS had to engage a couple of them to keep the mages alive.

Now I don't really care if Kourtney is a gilseller or not at this point, the fact remains, Serket was stolen from us when we were doing just fine. Come on, people... stop this crap; stop stealing HNMs from LSs who originally claimed them. Can't we play this game in a civil manner, without making the experience less fun for everyone else? TheCrew will NOT under any circumstances try to claim other LSs mobs once they have been claimed. That's just not right. We in the LS are constantly warned not to mpk or try any of that underhanded crap, because it just will not be stood for, and would result in a boot from the LS. So can we treat each other with a little more honor and respect in the future? /end rant

Let's not forget HITMAN. I was in one of the parties he MPK'ED last night in G.C. I am still some what a noob as I just got my pld to level 50 and need to still to do G1 but what I don't get is why the GM's do not do anything to these ppl when you call. To me they need to step up and start doing something as they are sending the message that this is ok with them.


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Galka
PLD 50
WAR 41
NIN 12
RDM 08
rest still lvl 1

No legit LS would take the claim from another legit LS in a situation like this. There are "rules" for how you behave when camping NMs (basically common sense and respect) and the ones that don't follow those will ***** up their reputation for a long time. Gilsellers have never abided by these "rules" (and why would they?) and people like Kourtney, gilseller or not doesn't follow them either. Trash is what they are.

I must admit that I'm a bit of a hypocrite here as I wouldn't hesitate to steal an NM from the gilsellers. I don't care if I get the claim or another legit LS does though, not even after I've stolen it.




Try also Meep, Wraithblade and Zaltoa. Pieces of trash that join the gilsellers out of greed. These people disgust me more than the gilsellers themselves.

Niobia, what the hell are you talking about? Meep is a Black Mage, Wraithblade is a Nin....yeah, for those jobs it's really hard to get invited to a party or LS, really freaking hard......instead of getting invited to (or staying in) a legit LS they wanted whatever items they're promised by the Ls-gang now so they joined Warchild. I know they are in Warchild because I don't think it's rude to check people, I will do that whenever I want to. I actually think it's pretty ridiculous to say that it's rude, if you ask if it's ok before you check someone you're polite but you are definately not rude if you don't.

Seriously Niobia, is them being in the army an excuse for being greedy asses? If I could only play this game every now and then and at random times I still wouldn't join a gilseller LS to get the items I wanted. Either I would just accept that my schedule won't allow me to spend 8 hours a day camping crap or I would see if I could get invited to a legit LS as a part-time member and come whenever I can. For these people however, greed is stronger than the sense of decency. I hope they come to their senses and leave Warchild immediately but I doubt it.

As a final note, you were the one saying in another thread how the actions from the people you associate with reflects on you (and I agree with this), how well does the actions of Lsfallenangel and friends reflect on Zaltoa, Meep and Wraithblade? GG.