NM ThiefsFollow

Agreed. I'm going to reaffirm that I think it might just be a misunderstanding: granted, Thai's party claimed the NM after it went yellow but the difference between his being a villain or a hero depends on whether the other party's intention, which is apparently vague at that exact point in time.

Now we see a picture where the other party bound the mob and was running away from it: not very far away, but you have to admit, that sounds like they might have been zoning from an observer's point of view. Of course, Shuffles was there, standing next to Thai but that doesn't mean both their reactions would be the same. If I were in their shoes, I would be just as likely to have wanted to help 'save' the other party by voking it off them as soon as possible, as I would be to wait and see what they were doing, both viable options in my opinion.



Hmmm. I'd be interested to see the OP's response to this...

If you fight a NM at a distance, it'll go unclaimed unless you have a party trained with all the reasons monsters go unclaimed.

NM theft is so expected that you need to mention the people who don't turbo-voke a monster and don't steal the claim when it goes white for a split second.

These people are gonna level to 75 just fine and run through tu'lia, unless you devote yourself to stalking and mpking them with new accounts / billing addresses. Or maybe murdering them in real life.

I'm not playing 'hard to convince': just as you have a right to post your opinion that what they did was wrong and intentional, I also have to right to say that I think its a little premature to judge.

You sound as if you need to convince the forum or prove that your version of events happened, but you've already done your part by alerting the rest of us to it. Since us readers will never have a perfect picture of what went on without fraps or some other video program, we can only make our own decisions based on what we've read here and what we know about Thai and gang. My personal opinion is just that I will judge them when I feel there's enough evidence to be sure, and in the meantime I'll just be careful of them.



Like I said, you don't have to convince us. Your side of the story is free to view, people can make up their own minds what they want to believe. Just because I'm urging restraint before condemning someone to eternal ostracism does not mean you 'failed' to convince the rest, it just means that what I believe.

Also, to address the lack of an apology as a clue, it *is* a clue, but a single circumstantial clue does not a criminal make. Ysabell's post could be a clue in the opposite direction also. Surely that doesn't prove that he's simultaneously a great guy and a villain?



Meaning no insult, but this game involves real people who expend real time and real effort on accomplishing things. I'm not taking part in this discussion because I take the game too seriously, I'm taking part in it because I don't want to see anyone wronged, nor their fun ruined if this is all one big misunderstanding. After all, isn't that why you posted too: for the people (Thai), not just for the game?



Edited, Sat Jun 11 11:31:28 2005 by Sweetzombiejeebus

Actually phase, i never fought any gob, i just stood there and watched.

In fact, i was the one that died from a gob bomb from one of the links that they were fighting.

I stood there, never moved, so i never tried to mpk, it was me that died.

I remember a year and a half ago when the first wave of initial NA PC players hit Kazham. Thai was in the jungle the same time I was.

Now there are people who train gobs to the zone. And then there's Thai. I bet he killed each of the three parties near the zone atleast two or three times.

And he didn't say anything.

It was only after the repetative /slaps he was receiving that he spoke up.

This was a year and a half ago. And other then Jeuno when I walk by him occasionaly. I haven't had any contact with him since. But for some reason, this event is still as clear as day.

I wasn't impressed with him then, and I'm not surprised he grew up to be one of those scandilous players.

you better not to MPK them u'll will get in jail like me im in jail atm and GMs duspended my account just cuz, i MPKed Gil Sellers when they stole Serket NM from us by MPK us first
GM saw me when we all died i told our WHM in Alliance to casy Raise1 just to MPKed those mother ******* and i did (Goodcat / Hitme / Doctorman) and others stupids Gil Sellers got owned by me while GM D: watching me now u see dead bodys high lvl in GC area... ¡! Gil Sellers & Us so what GM did u think?
he took me up cuz i mpked them & gil sellers too he suspended my account and let them free u feel **** happen here! GMs ******* nothing atm -_-;
well i hope everything gonna be allright i still 2 days with out FFXI D; /desgusting /sigh