possible gil sellers?Follow

ok before i start, i wana just say PLEASE DO NOT FLAME ABOUT GIL SELLERS HERE OR GIL BUYERS OR WHATEVER. now that thats done..

ok i was in a pt earlier with two chinese guys (they were chinese because they spoke it in chat log and i happen to have a small chinese background). this is how it started.

around JP primetime, i went out seeking with my pld and wandering around jeuno when suddenly, i recieved a /tell from this guy named Xqwl for a pt. normally when someone invites me to an exp pt, i do a /sea all "name of the person" to check his rank and job coz i might be too high or too close to level or etc. in this case, i was just ughed... he was a rank 1 53war/thf with a 1handed axe and a shield. no AFs. oh and semi poor equips. moving on, i joined him and after 30 minutes of being in the pt with 2 other guys and no progress. i said i had to go (coz i had to log to mules to check stuff. not to mention the pt wasnt going anywhere. the other guy left before i did.

so anyway i come back, go back on seek and get another invite from the guy i suspected to be a gil seller. i turned down his pt invite again and since i hate getting invited blindly, i blacklisted him. (i usually remove the name from the list after a while). he then gave me another invite and this time it was annoying. i ignored him. then i got into a better exp pt.

after my good exp pt died out, i went back to jeuno and again.. that xqwl guy invites me blindly. i ignore him once, then get another invite from him and i say, what the heck. let's see how it'll turn out. we headed to boyahda tree and we started..

here is when i started noticing how much of a poor player this guy is. our fight with the robber crab starts. the sam tells us what SC will we be doing and it looks ok. the prob is, when the sam got 100 tp, the war never did the SC right. that bad point #1. bad point #2 came from when he started pulling when we werent really ready. ugh. and then here comes point 3. our rdm leaves for a hospital emergency (hope your friend is ok) then we get a replacement rdm.. rank 2.. gimped blm sub. no AF i believe. so we continue our fight and guess what, i dont get refreshed. now normally id think this was just a fluke but here is the 2nd bad part. he doesnt dispel right.. we were hitting the crab for 2 minutes for zilch and he doesnt notice. to top it off, still no refresh. only time i did get it was when i said refresh please thrice. we eventually disbanded.. me the sam and the whm. we just got sick of it.

basically they suck. i dont know if they are potential future gil sellers or what (rank 1 and 2, level 50+, gimped subs, gimped equips, trying to level ASAP, bad performance) but please be warned of em. i honestly dont want anyone else to go through the heck i went thru today with these 2 people.

war's name was Xqwl
rdms name Magenly.

Edited, Fri May 27 13:38:03 2005 by Alsarius

I was in the second pt mentioned by Alsarius, he was the PLD and I the WHM.

It was hard for me to belive that not one but two people could be this bad ar playing tha game and be this high level. I couldent get a refresh to save my life, and the war kept yelling me to haste her, even though the haste order had been established.

Bottom line is just be wary of these folks, I'm not going to say they were Gilsellers, or anything like that, but they definetly made it a difficult time by lacking in basic Exp Party Skills.

Oh and Alsarius is an Excellent PLD :D

EDIT: Spelling

Edited, Fri May 27 14:24:07 2005 by oOPerseusOo

Edited, Sun May 29 03:35:39 2005 by oOPerseusOo

By accepting them, you aren't doing anything to discourage the practice.

How would you know if they are gil sellers?? tell me please.. i want know this..

Edited, Fri May 27 14:29:17 2005 by narusegwa

hjuu is easy to claim.. I camp that almost all the time.:) i have beat bunch gil sellers.. and thought they kinda give up on the area cuz when im there, they never get claims :) O.o

Edited, Fri May 27 14:34:05 2005 by narusegwa

They have been camping Davoi aswell, they tend to spam you with chinese tells a lot. No idea wether they are gil-sellers or not, but they are at least annoying.

and jaffar, i dont know where you're getting at but i dont like it. what would u do if someone kept sending u invites and you had to accept OTHER invites from OTHER people. ( i know, press the no to the invite acceptance choices) yes? right?

look, i dont want to teach them anything. frankly id rather let them suffer. dont get me wrong jaf. and stop provoking me into saying things i dont want to say.

so much for the disclaimer i put on top >.>

anyway in response to the last one, this is why i had that "oh lets give it a shot" and why i joined that guys pt. i gave them what you would call "the benefit of the doubt". as for the issue of gil sellers, i ddnt come here to rant about it. i just wanted to ask (look at the topic, its not a statement its a question) for some clarifications and other peoples observations (which i got some ty for those) about these two individuals in our server. frankly i care about what will happen to our server if the number of gil sellers would happen to increase.

gil sellers increase = prices fluctuate a bit more = new players become victims.

this is the only reason why i care about it so much (coz i was once a new player and felt i lacked so much money when i looked at astral rings back then at 150k >.>)

i wouldnt instantly label a chinese player with rank 1 /2 char with a gimped sub as a gil seller. he could have switched alliance, switched subjob to do whatever he feels like etc etc but when you start pting and these "bad" qualities still remain, you begin to wonder the true intention of the player. normally, a gamer (like you and me and 99% of us) would want to have DECENT equips / sub jobs / requirements. common admit it its com

oh and about the "stfu" and blist thing, il only do it if im quite certain that person was a gil seller (and now that i have a little more reassurance from other people, ive left them there in my blist).

ok lets end this discussion there. honestly i dont want to turn this into a gil seller flame thread. just want to inform and confirm these two.

edit: and no, i didnt know this xqwl person was a gil seller. ive never encountered him thats why.

and yes naru, id blame it on the gil buyers. they create the demand for such a thing (but i ant pointing fingers who is buying gil)

Edited, Fri May 27 15:21:14 2005 by Alsarius

lol eeki. yeh i got rated down. dont really mind as long as i can clarify things. (hmmm im sure there's a list of topics that will easily get replies :p i think GS is one of em x.x)

Could also be bought accounts...

A GM more than likely won't do anything, but they may at least make you feel better about the situation. They're here to serve, after all. ^_^

Nekolas

Just a note, I went out of my way not to accuse them of Gilselling, but to just warn my fellow players that Magenly and Xqwl are just lacking in the skills that they should have obtained throughout the leveling process.

This could mean any number of things, bought account, different people playing the same char on different shifts, or they were just tolerated through 50+ levels of N00bness. The latter seeming more difficult to believe.

Again, I am aware that there is a trend among known Gilsellers such as low rank, bad equipment, and just plain being bad, but I will give the benifit of the doubt and assume one of my three theories is correct.

:D