Ursula K. Leguin. I tried to name my daughter Ursula, but got voted down.
Anyways, she recently made me proud again with this speech she gave at the National Book Awards.
She started in by recognizing the literary worth of science fiction. Something the writing industry has historically failed to do. But she went on to slam Amazon and other 'profiteers' for price gouging and sacrificing quality literature for profit.
Listen to the speech here. It's only 6 mins.
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Alma wrote:
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Amazon and the profiteers are a business not a charity. Selling things that are more likely to be bought is kind of a necessity, and it really doesn't matter how many merfolk voices she steals.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Amazon and the profiteers are a business not a charity. Selling things that are more likely to be bought is kind of a necessity, and it really doesn't matter how many merfolk voices she steals.
It matters when they try to monopolize the market.
You didn't listen.
Alma wrote:
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Elinda wrote:
You didn't listen.
I listened. I didn't watch, she's kind of scary looking, but I did listen. It doesn't really change that a business is in the business of being a business. "Wanting to make the most money possible" isn't really much of a fault. Calling it greed is disingenuous.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Elinda wrote:
You didn't listen.
I listened. I didn't watch, she's kind of scary looking, but I did listen. It doesn't really change that a business is in the business of being a business. "Wanting to make the most money possible" isn't really much of a fault. Calling it greed is disingenuous.
Apparently Amazon was in the business making money off authors, publishers and readers illegally - or so the courts decided.
Not playing by the rules to make more money; I'd call that greed.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Elinda wrote:
You didn't listen.
I listened. I didn't watch, she's kind of scary looking, but I did listen. It doesn't really change that a business is in the business of being a business. "Wanting to make the most money possible" isn't really much of a fault. Calling it greed is disingenuous.
Apparently Amazon was in the business making money off authors, publishers and readers illegally - or so the courts decided.
I'm not really up on the legal dealings of Amazon, but do you have some kind of cite/source for this? The only reference to an ebook related lawsuit against Amazon I could find via my admittedly brief search was some suit that was tossed out nearly a year ago. Is there something more recent and relevant and in which Amazon was actually found to have been engaged in illegal practices as you claim?
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Not playing by the rules to make more money; I'd call that greed.
Sure. Did they violate the rules? I'm not being snarky. I honestly don't know what you're referencing here.
Edited, Nov 20th 2014 6:06pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
I'm not really up on the legal dealings of Amazon, but do you have some kind of cite/source for this? The only reference to an ebook related lawsuit against Amazon I could find via my admittedly brief search was some suit that was tossed out nearly a year ago. Is there something more recent and relevant and in which Amazon was actually found to have been engaged in illegal practices as you claim?
I'm kind of curious as well. I seem to remember one with Apple, where Amazon was the "victim" (term used loosely).
(The one I'm referring to had something to do with Apple and the Publishers working together to fix prices so that Amazon could not make deals to sell the ebooks for less than Apple.)
Edited, Nov 21st 2014 7:01am by TirithRR
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5 minutes of "corporate greed is killing art!" whining. Meh.
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I misspoke (misstyped??) the suite I was thinking about was against Apple. Amazon merely had to pay back $millions in over-charges as a result.
Leguin doesn't name names.
Common response when one has nothing of merit to add.
One person's cause is another's whine.
Leguin doesn't name names.
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5 minutes of "corporate greed is killing art!" whining. Meh.
One person's cause is another's whine.
Alma wrote:
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