Lowbie - ZOMG - kill it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Follow

Decided to roll a PvP server toon just for shoots and giggles and can't say that my XP isn't exactly like I thought it'd be so far. Got to 20 without issue due solely to the fact that you can't gank peeps in the newby zone but after that, well, it seems that no one on a PvP server is actually doing anything other then manning the borders of the newby zones and choke points in the hope of engaging in glorious combat with someone 40-60 levels lower then them.

Managed to make it past the blockades and proceeded to do some naked world wandering to pick up FPs and get some exploring and Halloween candy XP. Got ganked by peeps wandering the level 20-30 zones who were obviously in the 60+ range based off of their hit points.

Eventually made it through Felwood into Timbermaw Hold where a high 70s/80 mage caught me - thought he was just passing through but apparently not - he camped the toon. After 3 KIAs to him I logged out for some grub - 45m later I popped back in and the loser is still camping the corpse. O_o

So I take it that once you hit Outlands it's easy to level as anyone 50+ on a PvP server is in the 20-40 zones looking for lowbies to gank?

I've played on a PVP server since my first days of WoW. I've never really had that big of a problem. I've run into high levels who were farming that would usually kill me in a zone but they never camped me.

On pvp servers you'll always have your annoyances with people. Crossroad is constantly camped, Tarren Mill is too of course, but that's neutral so it's more of a pain in the *** if you level there. When you get to outlands you'll find that...uh, whatever that horde place in Hellfire Peninsula is.

I guess this is all assuming you are horde. I'm not sure what towns on alliance side are usually camped on pvp servers.

News flash- Goldshire is always like that. Get use to it or leave.

Its something you learn to deal with, if I were leveling again and got ganked on a fresh server I'd just alt tab for a while. Especially with the new LFG and XP in BGs theres all sorts of ways to avoid the actual world.

I've been frustrated a few times by gankers but I still prefer PVP servers I dont know why. You probably get a more competitive type of person on those servers and your average player probably has more interest in PVP since they actually rolled on a PVP server. Thats not to say there arent top PVPers on PVE servers but they are rare and probably wishing they had started on PVP servers. I started on PVE myself and after watching a bunch of videos decided PVP servers are where its at.

My server though has a bad faction imbalance it kind of sucks. I dont see many allies to fight out in the world. I transfered a single character of mine to alliance on that server just to see what it was like, its awful. But I love INSTANT BG queues as Alliance, thats the only reason I'm still there. I hate logging on to PVP and I sit in Dalaran for 10 minutes for every BG queue.

Calm down? I was laughing at you.

It's not my culture, btw. I only gank lowbies when they attack me when I'm flagged (I don't play on a PvP server).

With how unbalanced high level vs lowbie combat is, it only takes a very small number high level chars from one of the factions to make an entire region unplayable to the opposing faction. That is unless you can "find a pvp solution" (aka: relog to your level 80 PvP char).

(ok, who am I kidding, if you're on a PvP server all of your level 80 chars are PvP chars)

(unless you're a clueless carebear)

(it does suck if you don't have level 80s and nobody with level 80s cares about helping you)

There's tricks to get around all that, on PvP servers you have to level 2 chars instead of one, in 2 different regions. If you get camped by a high level you evade and escape, if it becomes impossible then you just switch to your other char.

There's also one other thing when you level on a PvP server, your leveling is done using a 100% pvp oriented spec and pvp viable gear. Because, when a quest on contested territory sends you to kill 10 zombies, it's not the zombies that could kill you, I'd be surprised if the zombies actually did. Or you might just disregard what I just said, people who do, like me, will just roll over you with the same ease you vaporize the zombies.

But with all things said, I have been a fan of World PvP and PvP servers for a long time but I think it is no longer worth it. I feel that World PvP is ruined mostly because of how flying mounts introduce a terrible mechanic for World PvP. It is also not very good that people can have chars in both factions. It isn't something that will be removed, and I don't see any fix or even an intention to fix this, or hell, even an acknowledgement from blizz that they understand that flying mounts introduce a detrimental mechanic for world pvp.

So really, take it from me, at this point in the game, with all the changes that have affected world PvP, PvP servers are no longer worth it. The only world PvP worth playing now is the world PvP scenarios like wintergrasp which prevents flying during the battles. I'm not going to cry about it anyway, I enjoyed while it lasted. It may be time for me to say I've played wow enough and play battlefield instead.

I got Starcraft but I find I'm not enjoying the build order style of it. After having played Company of Heroes I can't go back to resource collecting base simulators. But if you're cool with resource collecting base simulators then Starcraft isn't bad at all, and the campaign was pretty nice.


Edited, Nov 1st 2010 7:20pm by xorq

I tend to play on pvp servers cause i think the tradeoff is worth it. You might get ganked or camped occasionally by a level capped player but there is generally a solution. Call in a guildie, log your main or just play a different character or game or do some pressups (i swear, working out is as addictive as WoW. I'm reaching for the weights every time i get on a flight point these days).

But it's worth it for the cool level world pvp you can sometimes get, especially when both sides are /bowing, /saluting and such. Being stealthed behind two players standing by a questgiver in zangarmarsh and deciding to take em both on :D

As I have stated above I have been playing on a PvP server since I started wow and really haven't had much of a problem. In Azeroth you get the occasional a-hole who will gank you but they usually move on. I get more camped by people who are my level trying to quest in the same area I am, and we usually battle it out for awhile until one of us finishes or one of us gives up and moves on.

As for Outlands/Northrend, I really don't have much of a problem questing in those zones and getting ganked. I usually get ganked just by sitting in Thrallmar and having allies constantly attacking it. But most of Outlands is uninhabited except for people trying to power their chars to Northrend.

If I doing something in a lowbie zone and see a low level horde I will usually kill them unless I am in a rush to get somewhere. If I'm farming low level mats I try and remember who I've killed so I don't accidentally start camping them. I will still mess with them of course as it is amusing.

Using CC and non-damaging attacks is a personal favorite.

But ya PvP or tank gear with trinket is the norm for doing stuff in the world on a PvP server. Low level world PvP is pretty sweet and a nice break from questing.

I did have some horde help me kill Chillmaw on my tank, I didn't need help I think they just want him to die faster, so I helped them afterwards as they had no tank. But normally it is attack on sight as they will try and kill you otherwise.


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Edited, Nov 3rd 2010 5:40pm by Horsemouth

I play on both server (RP and PVP) and running around PVP flagged on a RP server will get you the same action as a PVP server. Go near any major cities of the opposite faction flagged and you are guarantying some good fights. Most lowbies will be happy to fight you for a change of pace. You can even organize a nice epic RP battle with the opposite guilds.

You don’t need a PVP server to PVP.

Run near any opposing faction city flagged on any server you'r going to get attacked, thats kind of a given. The OP is talking about getting ganked by higher levels, not choosing when to flag and going after lowbies.

This is my only toon on a new server so no level 80 big brothers to avenge it.

I choose the PvP server that was marked "new" so figured I'd have some time before it was overrun by bored 80s - apparently it isn't all that new.