Things you want to see implemented in FFXIVFollow

That is totally true, the combat system in FFXI had to be complex because 90% of the time you stood in exactly the same place and decided which of your 200 attacks to use. A combat system that complex combined with all the running and dodging would destroy this game at endgame. The first 50 levels are tutorial to teach you how to play your character. I understand where this can get boring, but hit amdapoor keep and the demon wall and you will take back your words. FFXIV endgame is more like a combination of Phantasy Star Online and FFXI, where you still have the cooldowns and combat like FFXI, but you are running all over the place and dodging constantly like in Phantasy Star Online. But in FFXIV it is even less forgiving. Even at capped level, with the best armor, you can still get one shotted.


Edited, Sep 27th 2013 9:00am by Valkayree

Edited, Sep 27th 2013 9:01am by Valkayree

I'd disagree strongly with that, but I'd rather not clog things up with GW2 issues here. Abridged version would basically be zero endgame PvE content that isn't shackled to dungeon spamming.

Lack of endgame was definitely an issue, but not THE issue. GW2 failed to connect with gamers for several reasons... but, like you said, the point of this thread isn't to analyze every problem with GW2. Abridged version: 1) No role diversity between jobs, 2) Game way too easy/mindless, 3) Dungeons were a mess, 4) No endgame.

Now, back to FFXIV.

If you read the positive reviews about FFXIV (and there are many), a common thread is that FFXIV has almost an old-school feel despite being new... and, according to reviewers, this is a good thing! In fact, this has been one of the biggest reasons of praise for ARR. Here are some of the features of FFXIV which give the game that awesome, nostalgic flavor:

- Having to plan our travel (we can't teleport everywhere without blowing through our gil, and even then, telepoints are nicely scattered)
- Having to be in possession of crafting items in order to use them
- Having to select the item to give to the quest NPC
- Having to talk to NPCs to get quests
- Having to talk to NPCs to end quests
- Cutscenes for quests and missions
- Not everything is voice acted
- Our characters aren't made out to be testosterone-driven heroic cliches.
- etc.

Anyway, for whatever reason, ARR didn't go in the direction of other modern MMOs... and, funny enough, the game has earned lots of praise for that. Why ruin a good thing by putting parts of the game on autopilot?

Edited, Sep 27th 2013 8:22am by Thayos

YUP. Combat complexity comes from three things: the enemy's mechanics, and the mechanics of the group, and individual rotations. Currently we have 1 and 3, but the only group mechanic is the super simple limit break. THF SA/TA + skillchain and magic burst would make things so much more interesting.

Looks like you didn't notice that they patched AK specifically because they are against speed runs. Expect to see more patches. I haven't gotten to end game so I can't speak for all of the dungeons, but the ones I have been in have random chests to loot that encourage you to explore the entire dungeon without making it mandatory. That's something most MMOs don't do.

Yeah. Part of me wonders how much "speed running" is a cultural thing, does the JPN community have such a toxic attitude when it comes speed runs? It seriously ruined GW2 for me and I don't want it to ruin FFXIV because I like this game much more than GW2 (I missed the trinity and like all the fan service).

I am glad they are discouraging it and hopefully they get rid of it. Giving an incentive to kill trash would go a long way. Even Molten Core trash dropped BoE epics.

Edited, Sep 27th 2013 2:21pm by KingoGoodbomber

The big thing I want to see an MMO do is offer equal progression outside the dungeon/raid sphere. Yes, I know the people who like that will ***** to high heavens about how they feel people don't deserve such progress or that people don't need that kind of gear growth for the open world, but in the end I just see it as a Game Over for those who can't commit reliably to the dungeon/raid scene and you seriously can't call vanity options, housing, or other little mini-games a substitute.

Solo dungeons are certainly an option, but I'd wiggle leves in here, too. Crafting should also be equally accessible without requiring dungeon/raid drops. GC seal equipment is also a method, it just needs higher tiers to pull that off. Repeatable (not daily/weekly) quests to work toward another possible currency wouldn't hurt. And of course new story content in general. So, while in theory the hardcore may be able to grind this out at a fair pace and bemoan there's nothing to do, they are not the target audience and they only have themselves to blame for playing beyond the norm. The only true concession I'd be willing to make here is letting dungeon/raid gear be prettier with all the glows and sparkles some yearn for, and while the alternative doesn't look bad, perhaps if on equal gear footing, they'll have a better chance to chase the shiny gear if they do get the chance. Right now, more people are inclined to not bother because time and connections simply aren't on their side.

To better perpetuate all this, I'd certainly love to see more dynamic zones fueled perhaps by FATE chains. Given the beastmen/primal influence, you can have them conquering hubs (even from each other) with the player objective to try and reclaim. Given enough build-up, you might even see Odin/Behemoth tier open-world primal fights with new tricks for the more hardcore to take on, too. Of course, if the players are holding the terrain, they'll have more access to those quests I alluded to, possibly bonus vendors, and perhaps even outright perks like lower teleport costs or increased mount speeds. Just get people out in the world doing stuff.

Now that I have started FFXIV, I am starting to mis FFXI again =(

Whould be nice if some of the FFXI stuff made it to FFXIV.
- Notorious monsters. Not in the way that the gear is so good that they are camped 24/7, but a nice challenge when you encouter one during leveling, with some exp bonus and a decent reward for your level.
- Boat rides. Loved them for fishing together with (notorious) monster spawns and pirates.
- Skill Chains, just to make the fightts more interesting.
- Red Mages, my favorite job from FFXI.

I always find mini games fun as well. Pet battles from WoW for example. And I think the diplomacy sphere from Vanguard whould fit nicely in FFXIV as well.

And to solve some annoyances.
- Right click in chat to ignore option.
- Inventory sort option.

I still have a lot to do so nowhere near bored, but already looking forward to what will come :)

ISNM, ENM, BCNM, KSNM.....these were some of my absolute favorite things from FFXI. I absolutely love "gimmick" fights that require certain setups or have little tricks to them. I like how the community came up different configurations to run them (peacock charm bcnm with RDM, NINx2 anyway? I miss you!).

And the absolute easiest way to do this is already in the game: Levequests. It's so easy to use this system to choose a Leve, just like a specific BCNM and run it with a group of people. Even better, you can make it mimic the "your orb, your drop" setup through Levelinking. When the person initiates the leve, everyone going has a chance to levelink and spend one of their own allowances and this gives them a chance to roll on drops. Otherwise, BCNM Levequests only allow the person using an allowance the ability to roll "need" on all loot and everyone else gets "greed". Choose to levelink and you get placed in the "need" pool. Need and Greed would be based on only this restriction, no class restrictions so they would have to do a little tweaking but again, incentivizes people to spend allowances and help out.

Obviously the drops can't be too insane as some people would spend a whole day burning through all of their allowances but that's naturally checked by the allowance refill (you will eventually run out) and the very profitable use of leves for tradecraft triple turn ins.

Also, different areas could have different BCNM Levequests available, just like the current Battle and Tradecraft leves, thus incentivizing people to do the local levemete quests to open up leves for each area. That equals more exploring (plus it causes people to burn their leves, again, another natural check on the system getting out of hand). Sounds like win/win all over the place.

I (and I'm sure a lot of people) disliked these type of fights because they exclude those that don't have the required jobs leveled. I want the game to be more inclusive than FFXI.

i would like to see Notorious Monsters make a return. The drop rates would be to be something not TOO outrageous though. I'm looking at you mee degi the punisher.

I want to specify that i DON'T want to see the ones that spawn every 24 hours. Max 6 if anything so all time zones can have a shot. Along with the other obscure ways some NM's could spawn. (do we know yet how almighty apkallu spawns yet or is that still unknown?)

As of right now i have all jobs capped except for crafts, so i just sit in town all day and use the duty finder because theres nothing else for me to do in the world.

This is very wishful thinking, but I would really like a real materia system. Make the materia level up. Have some that give skills or modify skills. Like, reduce recast of Sentinal by 10s etc and it can level up. And let there be materia linking like increase bonus value by 20%. So if you have armor with a 2 slots that link and you the reduce recast by 10s on one slot and the increase bonus value by 20% slot, it would reduce it by 2s. Etc.

i have names turned on all the time, and i know holding either x or z (one of those, i forget) by default toggles most of the names off. maybe it works the other way around too, if you have names off by default it'll turn them on? check it out, it'll be in keybindings im sure :)

edit: just looked into it, i guess "x" is the "click filter", you can change the click filter settings under character config > control settings > target , unfortunately it looks like the only way this can be used is to toggle names OFF by holding x, i tried changing the settings to toggle names ON but it didn't work :\ THIS WOULD BE SUCH A COOL FEATURE



Edited, Sep 29th 2013 4:47pm by chillpickle