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#27 Sep 06 2013 at 1:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Catwho wrote:
The people who were genuinely hacked, via key loggers or social engineering, have a chance at account recovery.

The people like a poster here a few days ago who gave away their account info to a friend prior to it getting hacked.... not so much.


This early in the game life, the people who were compromised are likely those who already have their email/password combination compromised from other sources and the "hackers" just used their purchased list on this game.

Look up the GuildWars 2 article on account security, it goes in pretty easily understood detail of the email/password trading world, and how these people just purchases 1000s of names and just try them out on every single game. Those people who use the same email/password on multiple services are the first to get hit when these games launch. Happened with Diablo 3 and with Guild Wars 2 within weeks of release. And has begun happening on FFXIV at around the same time period.

Give the users a week or two to accumulate something, then log in and steal it all. Seems to be the MO when it comes to these people and MMO releases.
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#28 Sep 06 2013 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
Those are exactly the folks whom the tokens will protect, then.
#29 Sep 06 2013 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
Those are exactly the folks whom the tokens will protect, then.


No doubt, the tokens are a great security tool. But I was just thinking some people jump on the idea of true hacking (key logging, injection, what ever they want to think) without realizing how often people like using the same password for everything and how unsafe that ends up being.

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I'm actually surprised by how fast SE moved on this. I wasn't expecting any announcements or bans for a few weeks after release. Seems like they really want to keep it under check.

Edited, Sep 6th 2013 4:11pm by TirithRR
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#30 Sep 06 2013 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I swear all day while doing my damn storyline quests these ******** were making me advertising their gil sites. I reported at least 15 of these little ***** yesterday alone.
#31 Sep 06 2013 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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i personally use a different password for everything >.>
#32 Sep 06 2013 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
I try using different passwords for everything and that usually results in me having to click that "forgot password" link way too often. Writing them down is a definitely bad idea. What do you guys do?
#33 Sep 06 2013 at 2:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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FFATMA wrote:
I try using different passwords for everything and that usually results in me having to click that "forgot password" link way too often. Writing them down is a definitely bad idea. What do you guys do?


Go ahead, use complicated, different passwords and write them down in a safe location. The chances of someone finding your paper slip and getting access to your accounts is significantly less than the chances of someone gaining access to a single user/pass combination and selling it on the account-jacker black market and gaining access to your accounts.
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#34 Sep 06 2013 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
FFATMA wrote:
I try using different passwords for everything and that usually results in me having to click that "forgot password" link way too often. Writing them down is a definitely bad idea. What do you guys do?



All my passwords have a common numerical sequence at the end. The beginning is something related to the website.

So they're along the lines of....

For ZAM: Karma1234? (not my real password of course)
For PayPal: Checking1234? (not my real password here either)

etc.

The distinct numerical pattern with the symbol at the end stays the same, but the key word is different. The end result is a different password for each website, but a pattern that is hard to forget.
#35 Sep 06 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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FFATMA wrote:
I try using different passwords for everything and that usually results in me having to click that "forgot password" link way too often. Writing them down is a definitely bad idea. What do you guys do?


I personally use 1password.

Being configured as an admin on all of our servers, many of them in a production environment, it's very important for me to have multiple passwords.

Edited, Sep 6th 2013 6:07pm by Pickins
#36 Sep 06 2013 at 4:34 PM Rating: Excellent
FFATMA wrote:
I try using different passwords for everything and that usually results in me having to click that "forgot password" link way too often. Writing them down is a definitely bad idea. What do you guys do?


I use Lastpass.
#37 Sep 06 2013 at 10:31 PM Rating: Good
Thanks for all the great answers!
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