Welp, Gearscore has infected itFollow

In FFXI right now people have compiled lists of those who do not have good gear, and are not good players, shunning them from current end game content. Wanting people properly geared is not a new concept.

I find the best strategy in these situations is to not run with random people. And if you do, then make sure you are the best informed out of any of them.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2013 4:56am by Magilicotti

Perhaps. SE will put in tiered end-game so that equipment score affects your ability to search for certain instances or have tougher enemies. That way, people who want to do that kind of thing won't have to impose their jack-assosity on everyone else.

It's been around for over a decade. And MMO's have been for even longer. You may encounter those that want others properly geared to join them. You may encounter money (gil) sellers. You may encounter many things because the genre is what it is.

Shoo-shoo Mopdaddy. Back to EQ.

Dooty finder...... elite edition~!

Seriously? Makes me glad I'm with Kraken Club =)

So its a site that judges player's gear and aptitude, frequented and used as a tool by those who have complained about being "judged" all their lives.

Have fun with that.

Gear score means nothing in FFXIV. Well maybe not 'nothing' but I will take a 'skilled' player over a 'geared' player anyday. Hell, you think something can only be done with 'blah blah blah' gear level? Please let me get a PT of 8 naked people and show you how wrong you are. Might take a while though... ><

1) How else are you to know if someone can tackle the content? Seriously, they are like levels. You wouldn't invite a level 40 player to fight Ifrit.

2) It's only based on Weapon...

3) People are horribly geared coming out of the story. I don't blame anyone for this, as long as they themselves are appropriately geared. What was being advertised, anyway? 60 is the highest unless you have a relic, which is 70. It's a very simple system.

I've been parsing for my own betterment, and it brought to light HUGE gap in player contribution in the final fights and dungeons. For comparison, I am extremely well geared and averaged between 140 to 125 dps, while I've had a Monk who beat me in DPS (with normal weapons/gear while I have Ifrit's Bow and better than darklight armor) and another Monk who did 40 dps (n the same party) falling lower than the pld and war tanks in the fight. The worst was a BLM with 23 dps... It was all fine and dandy because it was the main story, but if these same people then try to fight Chimera right after....

I probably sound really elitist right now... but I would prefer not to carry dead weight through very hard content. It's hard enough without that, and it's definitely an important factor. As evidenced with the Monk, though, skill and situation are equally important. Monk on single target fights is godly, Bard with adds and aoe is equally godly.



Edited, Sep 3rd 2013 10:28am by Louiscool

High level gear doesn't make you a better player. If a player has a high ilevel, it still doesn't show how he attained it. Whether they pulled their weight or were carried through and won a few rolls. It would further diminishes the credibility of ilevel when groups are willing to sell runs.

It's understandable that groups would want players are adequately equipped, which is fine, however sometimes the demands seem a little bit unreasonable.

Personally, I find it more entertaining to run with the average player rather than the elite player. It makes it more of a challenge. More "oh Sh**" situations where you think on your feet and react. You learn more about your class/job and its capabilities.

what if your friends.. although fun to play with suck horribly and cant get crap done?

It is unfortunately the only real metric for grouping with people you don't know. Is it always accurate? Hell no. Will a bad player still be bad even if he has good gear? Hell yeah. There is, however, no way to tell if someone is actually good if you have never grouped with them - that is the nature of pickup groups. By looking at a gear score you can at least tell that they have put it the time ad effort into getting decent equipment. It is also worth noting that you could be the most skilled player on your server but it won't matter if you gear isn't good enough to deal/take/heal the damage you need.

Tl;dr gearscores are a necessary evil and if you don't like it don't use PUGs.