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#27 Aug 23 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, you can never really go off review scores when it comes to MMORPG's... I'm willing to bet that the man that ends up reviewing the game, won't even get his own personal chocobo. He just might make it to level 20... Would be nice if a reviewer made it to say level 35 and then reviewed it, but even then it wouldn't be a full review. Just a review based on the world, lore, and maybe a few jobs leveled. Basically just a starters experience with a littler personal opinion sprinkled in.
#28 Aug 23 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elamille wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Well, like it or not, people actually do care about IGN's reviews (I don't).

Nobody, or very few people, cares about Kotaku's "yes/no/not yet" laughable reviews.

I've seen some games get a "no" because they were too politically incorrect.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 12:27pm by Killua125


I like how you push your preferences on others just like IGN and pretend that Kotaku is some little garbage site that nobody's heard of...



Let's face it. Kotaku is not the best site IMO.
#29 Aug 23 2013 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I would venture a 7.5.

The game is polished, but it's nothing "earth shattering" according to the game journos. The game plays well and barring any significant technical troubles, it should score a "Good" score without a problem. Unless the reviewer is a big FF fan and painting the score a bit higher because he loves chocobos and all the FF character injected into the world, I expect that average to good score.

To us, the game may be an 8.0 or higher.
#30 Aug 23 2013 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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well with everyone talking about how "great" it is Im hoping to see 8 average
#31 Aug 23 2013 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
Elamille wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Well, like it or not, people actually do care about IGN's reviews (I don't).

Nobody, or very few people, cares about Kotaku's "yes/no/not yet" laughable reviews.

I've seen some games get a "no" because they were too politically incorrect.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 12:27pm by Killua125


I like how you push your preferences on others just like IGN and pretend that Kotaku is some little garbage site that nobody's heard of...


People have heard of it. It's a pretty popular site. But everything they say at this point is taken with a grain of salt by its readers.
#32 Aug 23 2013 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can tell how much he doesn't care about the IGN reviews with how fervently he defends them.
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#33 Aug 23 2013 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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They will at best give it a 6. I on the other hand rate a games on a three tier scale. Crap, Good, and Godly. Only a few games have ever reached the Godly level.

Example of a Godly game: The Last of Us.
Example of a Good Game: Ni No Kuni Wrath of the White Witch
Example of a Crap Game: Call of Duty
#34 Aug 23 2013 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Killua125 wrote:
People have heard of it. It's a pretty popular site. But everything they say at this point is taken with a grain of salt by its readers.


Everything any review site says should be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm far more interested in what players say than what reviewers say.
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#35 Aug 23 2013 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
While I rarely visit IGN, the reviews are of better quality than Kotaku's, but that's not saying a whole lot.

When I do look at reviews (rare), I try to read into the bulk of it, "de-spin" it, and ignore the score. I know that reviews are biased if not paid off entirely, especially when it's so easy for these publishers to cut off review copies, early interviews, early information (all the stuff that gets their site hits).

I'm not really defending any gaming site, but I definitely find Kotaku's reviews most laughable, with authors like this one writing many of the reviews. http://kotaku.com/5914348/three-words-i-said-to-the-man-i-defeated-in-gears-of-war-that-ill-never-say-again
#36 Aug 23 2013 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
IGN isn't going to rate FFXIV at launch. For MMO's, they do reviews over a period of time. Now with that being said, here is how I feel they will rate FFXIV.

IGN will make comparisons to 1.0 and that will help the score, not hinder it. I suspect the both versions of FFXIV ARR will receive a rating between 7.5-8.0. The PS3 version works just fine. People that own a PS3 know the limitations of the hardware. A game rating by IGN isn't affected by those limitations.
#37 Aug 23 2013 at 11:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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You really can't review an MMO at launch because you never really get a feel for how the game progresses or how the storylines unfold. Single player games, shooters, etc... those that take hours to finish, those I would assume could be reviewed more honestly and timely. A review at an MMO launch can really only honestly talk about the UI, controls, and graphics. I think a 3 or 6 month followup review would probably have more meaning than a weekend after launch.
#38 Aug 23 2013 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I think it is going to get an 8 or 8.5. I don't like the decimal systems as it is a sign of wishy washy.

I'm leaning towards and 8.5 because it is more meaty than and just as polished as the XIII series which averaged an 8.

I don't think a game that doesn't push envelopes can raise above 9 unless it does every normal playtype genre offering better than the rest.

Lastly, if you are not playing the game on ps3 the review has no bearing on you regardless of the score.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 2:05pm by sandpark
#39 Aug 23 2013 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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IGN's score for FFXIV 1.0 was 5.5/10. If they only bump that by half a point after all the dramatic changes in ARR, then I think there's something wrong with their rating system.

The game will probably sit comfortably in the low 80s out of 100 with a side of "most improved MMO ever, but without much innovation."
#40 Aug 23 2013 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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Killua125 wrote:
http://kotaku.com/5914348/three-words-i-said-to-the-man-i-defeated-in-gears-of-war-that-ill-never-say-again


So took a minute to read that for the hell of it and my god. I don't remember the last time I have seen the word rape so much in print. With how that's written she sounds very much like a rape fetishist.
#41 Aug 23 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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Depends on how much money SE gives them.
#42 Aug 23 2013 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
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predicting a solid "I don't give a crap"
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#43 Aug 23 2013 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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8 or 8.5 in general. Reviews from beta were very positive, but it's not a ground breaking MMO in any way, so it can't really get 9s or 10s.
#44 Aug 23 2013 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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My only hopes of a high score is to bringing in review readers as new FFXIV players.

Either way I'm going to play the game and damn well enjoy it.

Edit: Fixing grammar , probably still horrible.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 2:56pm by Phasmoto



Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 2:57pm by Phasmoto
#45 Aug 23 2013 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah don't let a review sway you too much. Just look for the bullet points.
Polished?
Playable?
Accessibility?
Overview of gameplay
Overview of systems
Amount of content
Price

If it strokes the right keys for you when looking at those and sets around an 8 overall. The game is functioning as should and points up or down from there are subjective by preference for each person.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 2:58pm by sandpark

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 2:58pm by sandpark
#46 Aug 23 2013 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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I'd say a 70-75 average on metacritic.
#47 Aug 23 2013 at 1:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm sorry.... I just.....can't get this out of my mind!

sandpark wrote:
I think it is going to get an 8 or 8.5. I don't like the decimal systems as it is a sign of wishy washy.

I'm leaning towards and 8.5 because it is more meaty than and just as polished as the XIII series which averaged an 8......


#48 Aug 23 2013 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Release day/beta scores and reviews for MMOs are like bicycles for fish.


Came here to say this.

I would go farther and say that reviews/scores for MMOs are entirely useless at all times.
#49 Aug 23 2013 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
7.5-8. It will be relatively well recieved but too many reviewers will look at what it does just like other games and its past.
#50 Aug 23 2013 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ehllfire wrote:
7.5-8. It will be relatively well recieved but too many reviewers will look at what it does just like other games and its past.


If they look at it's past then it should take a 9! Smiley: lol Since 1.0 was a disaster.
#51 Aug 23 2013 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
The other problem with IGN, some reviewers review genres they don't even like. "Hey Mr. Sports Games, can you review this MMO and sink in minimum 70 hours?"...."?$!*".
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