on the ffxiv forumsFollow

Darkfae. That story you told earlier about a dad and his son playing FFXI sounded familiar. You didnt happen to be on Gilgamesh did you?

That teaches me to walk into a Catholic Church and preach atheism.

ya i know, Gaming was not really all that hard, i meant 6+ could play a game back in the 80s. It took some skill or a bit of thinking. Today, people like to pull the "real life" excuse, saying it wastes time if they die too much.

If you want to see how really bad it got, go on the DCUO forums. People cry all the time about the lamest of things. DCUO is the simplest mmo. the level cap is 30, you get it in a week regardless of play time (in 3 days if u can play 20 hrs a day) And all the content is rehashed with out changing. And you can team up with a high level or a high CR player who can do everything for you.

I recall one complaint was that no one switch to their rolls and just stayed DPS. Stating players NEEDED a tutorial on how to properly tank and heal. The reason was due to DCUO catered to fps/cod crowd and that few actually played RPG games.

That's completely wrong, I was Ul'dah and I got the antidotes. So this was your fault.

Edited, Aug 21st 2013 9:37am by pyrix

I have a suggestion for ur nongamer wife. Have her play Dragons dogma till ffxi launch. Its pretty mmo esque and will give her basic rpg info and group play info.

Idm the tutorials its just boss fights should feel like ya know a boss fight. This demon didn't in phase for. Hence the lackluster feel after beating it. I'll say this.... the demon was like fighting gamon in pre cata or bubbley burny in ffxi (at 75) or better yet a level 1 crab with paper knife.

Usually it was the ones that require you to cast reflect on yourself or can only be damaged with Cure that ended up killing me a few times before I could figure out the trick.

those two games are not even hard. Death or dieing doesn't make a game hard at all. Infact the game offers you tips based on the blood echos of other players playing if you pay attention u could avoid most deaths. Most people (that i saw on youtube) would rush in w/o really watching the echos.
And most old games did have fluid controls due to having very few buttons. Like mario was just a simple run forward press a. The skill was in the timing to avoid a projectile or a pitfall.

again hard =/= challange.

I'm not sure if i am thinking of the right fight or not. I am assuming it was the one I did in gridania at this huge tree. I honestly can't say the fight was hard or not because my better-half told me to only attack the demon, not the mage during the opening CS. I mean, the fight wasn't overly hard or a complete cake walk. It kept my attention which is good enough for me. The only quest I found hard as my CNJ was the 'Trial by Water' quest where i had to assist the lancers kill some doe's and water elements. I learned that i couldn't just try to take them on myself, i had to keep the npc's hp up and try to take out the water elements while avoiding the does.

But that's the thing, Mario had responsive controls, making it easy. You could easily fly through Super Mario 1 2 and 3 without ever dying. That's why I'm saying, most "hard" games back in the day were from horrible controls and design! The Mega Man games too, great controls, fun to play and easily beatable!