FFXI graphics used in ARR discussionFollow

Open your eyes when you play. They are there for you to see. I'm not going to go through and edit videos down when people are(read: should be) completely capable of discerning for themselves, but evidence is also found in gameplay videos and trailers found on SE's youtube channel.

Like I said, it doesn't bother me that they do exist and it won't trouble me if they persist through beta. There are more pressing issues to be dealt with than which skin a mob has and how much better the textures are than they were 12 years ago. As far as I'm concerned(at least up through alpha version of ARR), XIV isn't any better than XI so it wouldn't seem out of place at all if they shared mob skins and textures.

It does beg the question though... why go to the trouble of creating an engine and then nerfing it down to PS3 levels if they are using PS2 textures? Pretty much topples the argument that the watered-down engine is something ARR can claim as a new feature


Even ended the sentence with a comma... 11/10


Edited, Jul 15th 2013 10:02pm by FilthMcNasty

The FFXI models *are* using the original texture art. That is to say, they're using the textures that were created and stored in a database, whereas the FFXI models are running a significantly downsampled version of the original file. The ones used in FFXIV have touched up model skeletons but the actual textures are the originals that aren't downsampled (or if they are, perhaps a very slight downgrade). If you go look at a crab they look very well done.

What you're seeing, and not understanding apparently, is that the textures are designed for the smaller crab models. Like any game, be it offline or MMO, when a model increased in size the texture applied has to stretch to make sure that point A on the texture wrap meets point B on the skeleton model. When that happens, the textures become pixelated and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

I see the urganites and they look extremely well done. I look at the raptors and they look extremely well done. I see the Adamantoise and they look extremely well done. I saw apkallu and they look extremely well done. I look at the crabs and they look extremely well done.

The models that were ported over look incredible when viewed at the size the model was originally intended to be.

I know right! Man, during beta when I fought a Pieste my heart filled with nostalgia. And when he tried to petrify me, and I turned my back to him to avoid it. I was like "emm hmm!" This game is real!!! My Final Fantasy MMO has returned to my side!!!! Not to mention how fun it was to stun those ladies in the manor, not to mention when they rolled up on you when you were fighting other mobs, and just started with that big AoE. Great stuff!

Edited, Jul 16th 2013 7:10am by SirLuciousLeftfoot

Edited, Jul 16th 2013 7:11am by SirLuciousLeftfoot

As the leader of "Weekend at Bubbly Bernies," I can say that leaving him untouched was the happiest day in my beta-life.



The other enemies like mandys, goblins, etc all got shiny coats of paint, it's funny you chose only this one.



Edited, Jul 16th 2013 8:29am by Louiscool

Hear hear

Quick additional question for the crowd: will Tonberry mobs come back at some point? Please tell me yes since it is my favorite mob of all time across all games. It doesn't have to be at release, but please say they will be in the game at some point.

Lie to me if you have to.

Every single time I see a cactuar or tonberry I hope for the old blocky animations. The nostalgia is strong with this one. Absolutely keep some classics looking...well...classic! That's part of the charm of FF in general. Even though you're set in different worlds with vastly different peoples and histories, unlinked from any other world before it, you still get little hints of the predecessors along the way.

Killua125 and his ilk aren't fanboys. They've just pigeonholed themselves into being the heel and they don't know how to quit being the heel. We'll move on at release and they'll find another beta that won't live up to their expectations. That's all.


Edited, Jul 17th 2013 8:38pm by ShindaUsagi