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#1 Jul 11 2013 at 6:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think he has a point.





Edited, Jul 13th 2013 7:16pm by Wint Lock Thread: This is why we can't have nice things.
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#2 Jul 11 2013 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
i think anyone who believes it will fail before even launched or have been playing it should go rot somewhere... Just my opinion on it
#3 Jul 11 2013 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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^ He didn't watch the video.
#4 Jul 11 2013 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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i think anyone who believes it will fail before even launched or have been playing it should go rot somewhere... Just my opinion on it


People who respond to the thread but don't read the OP. Smiley: rolleyes
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#5 Jul 11 2013 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Hyrist wrote:
^ He didn't watch the video.

maybe he didn't watch it because the guy is black
#6 Jul 11 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Hyrist wrote:
^ He didn't watch the video.

maybe he didn't watch it because the guy is black


Smiley: laugh
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#7 Jul 11 2013 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
I see your black FFXIV guy and counter you with THIS black FFXIV guy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNm-t9eWSvA

Edited, Jul 11th 2013 10:02am by Killua125
#8 Jul 11 2013 at 8:08 AM Rating: Default
i didnt watch the video because there was no link to it that is visable to me... I'm not racist at all so that can be thrown out the window....
#9 Jul 11 2013 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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i didnt watch the video because there was no link to it that is visable to me... I'm not racist at all so that can be thrown out the window....


Lol, it's joke man, not serious.
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#10 Jul 11 2013 at 8:32 AM Rating: Default
i kinda figured haha... but i wasnt about to leave it alone and let those few think that i was...

now i see the video link... before i was on my phone and it wasnt visable...

Edited, Jul 11th 2013 9:34am by Mmoderator
#11 Jul 11 2013 at 8:41 AM Rating: Excellent
Hehe, that guy's laugh is awesome.
#12 Jul 11 2013 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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#13 Jul 11 2013 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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He makes a good point.
#14 Jul 11 2013 at 9:59 AM Rating: Default
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i think anyone who believes it will fail before even launched or have been playing it should go rot somewhere... Just my opinion on it


I thought it would fail before it launched and I was right. I came here to rot. Four point zero muthafawkuh.
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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His laugh is Gold lol
#16 Jul 11 2013 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hahaha man that guy is awesome!!

I keep watching it over and over again!!

Edited, Jul 11th 2013 2:54pm by Teravibe
#17 Jul 11 2013 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well played, sir.
#18 Jul 11 2013 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
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Truth. Stings don't it.

The sweet delicious irony of a thread about how XIV won't fail... a mere 3 years after it failed. I don't think ARR will fail either to be honest, but at least wait until it launches successfully to gloat about it.

Ahahaha a ha ah a hahaha aha aaaaah! Gotcha Smiley: oyvey
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HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#19 Jul 11 2013 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Truth. Stings don't it.

The sweet delicious irony of a thread about how XIV won't fail... a mere 3 years after it failed. I don't think ARR will fail either to be honest, but at least wait until it launches successfully to gloat about it.

Ahahaha a ha ah a hahaha aha aaaaah! Gotcha Smiley: oyvey



Anyone is free to have their opinion of course but bitterness is annoying to be honest.There are many people that didn't play XIV. We only knew it was bad and they had to put it to death. We do not care for it anymore though. We do not see ARR with the thought of XIV on our minds. Any game has the possibility to fail, any game.

People can be hopeful it won't fail. They can make videos and say it wont. Why? Because there are others that condemn ARR because of a different game XIV.

I am free to say that I am almost certain it wont fail like XIV because it isn't XIV.
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Teravibe wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
Truth. Stings don't it.

The sweet delicious irony of a thread about how XIV won't fail... a mere 3 years after it failed. I don't think ARR will fail either to be honest, but at least wait until it launches successfully to gloat about it.

Ahahaha a ha ah a hahaha aha aaaaah! Gotcha Smiley: oyvey



Anyone is free to have their opinion of course but bitterness is annoying to be honest.


I agree 110%. Problem is, the people who are bitter are the people who rated me into oblivion, not me. I didn't say anything that wasn't accurate. Feelings were hurt apparently.

Teravibe wrote:
People can be hopeful it won't fail. They can make videos and say it wont. Why? Because there are others that condemn ARR because of a different game XIV.

If someone who had never heard of XIV searched for it on youtube and found this video, it would have 0 meaning to them. If they then googled 'XIV fail' for more insight, they'd probably think this guy is a jackass because it did indeed fail.

I am also hopeful that ARR won't fail, but at least make something with some substance. There are scores of videos about ARR beta experience and people comparing what was there in 1.0, what has changed in ARR since then and what their thoughts are. To be honest, I completely expected to see a well though out and put together video along those lines that might actually inspire some confidence. This wasn't it.

As for the bolded, I don't see the logic here. ARR is XIV. Version 1.0 is not version 2.0, but just because WoW patch 4.0 isn't patch 5.0 doesn't mean WoW isn't WoW anymore. ARR is simply the culmination of 3 years of adjustments, new additions, omissions and polish of FFXIV.

I completely understand the reasoning for why you'd want to distance yourself from the shortcomings of FFXIV 1.0, but at the same time; the biggest reason I still have any respect at all for SE as a developer is that they owned up to it, are trying to fix it and have even gone as far as to incorporate the idea of their failing into the name of the game.

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I am free to say that I am almost certain it wont fail like XIV because it isn't XIV.

I live in the US. We're free to say pretty much whatever the hell we want to here. You're also completely free to be in denial about FFXIV: ARR being an update of FFXIV 1.0 if you so desire. I would just point out that if you're trying to make a point, you'll probably want to qualify a statement you make with more than "XIV won't fail because it isn't XIV", especially if you're going to try and account for people who won't have any idea what you're talking about anyway.

If you think the majority of people picking up ARR won't have heard of 1.0, we'll just have to agree to disagree. The only case I can make about that is that most gamers looking to get into an MMO are likely to have heard of the Final Fantasy series before, they're likely to have heard of Final Fantasy XI before as it's the same genre of game and they probably aren't likely to pick up the 14th installment of a game without at least a little background.
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30 bucks is almost free

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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#21 Jul 11 2013 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
Truth. Stings don't it.

The sweet delicious irony of a thread about how XIV won't fail... a mere 3 years after it failed. I don't think ARR will fail either to be honest, but at least wait until it launches successfully to gloat about it.

Ahahaha a ha ah a hahaha aha aaaaah! Gotcha Smiley: oyvey



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#22 Jul 11 2013 at 2:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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FFXIV, Now with more Chocobo Battles!

It's a video. .. 14 reasons to play FFXIV ... just to go along with the op's video:)
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#23 Jul 11 2013 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't even make this thread to troll, but apparently it worked on Filth.



Edited, Jul 11th 2013 5:08pm by Louiscool
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#24 Jul 11 2013 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
As for the bolded, I don't see the logic here. ARR is XIV. Version 1.0 is not version 2.0, but just because WoW patch 4.0 isn't patch 5.0 doesn't mean WoW isn't WoW anymore. ARR is simply the culmination of 3 years of adjustments, new additions, omissions and polish of FFXIV.


I guess that's your opinion. In my opinion, after playing XIV 1.0 for several months, and playing this beta quite a bit, they play like completely different games. They have very little in common other than the basic ideas. From one patch to another in WoW, the entire world/gameplay/design/quest structure/craft structure/etc doesn't change. Almost everything in ARR is either completely new to XIV (FATEs, duty finder, world design, etc) or almost completely redesigned (gathering, crafting, storyline, etc). That never happened in WoW, even with the Cataclysm expansion. That never happened in any game really... aside from possibly Star Wars Galaxies...
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#25 Jul 11 2013 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
Beta Phase IV can't get here soon enough! I just want to dive into this game. My wife and a RL friend will be playing, as will several of my old FFXI buddies. Enthusiasm for the game is soaring.

And, PS4!

Just a little longer...
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Beta Phase IV can't get here soon enough! I just want to dive into this game. My wife and a RL friend will be playing, as will several of my old FFXI buddies. Enthusiasm for the game is soaring.


Because no one knows the Phase 4 start date, no one can really schedule vacation time for it. I expect about 700,000 people are going to be "sick" that day. An epidemic!


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