bought 1.0 and likely skipping ARR, square wants to hear....Follow

You see blanks and just fill it in with things you make up. I shot SE an email asking about it, they told me to call. We discussed it like civilized people do. No one was butt hurt. No one was angry. There were no threats of suing or lawyers. They seemed more curious than anything. They actually did a pretty bang up job. They did go for hard sell of ARR like they're supposed to.

The customer service I got was a huge improvement over I can't remember one of my playonline passwords during my time with with ffxi.

I can think of several ways to not wave your rights.

But excuse me, I have to go break into people's houses to sue them because.... I have no idea.

For the whine.

I can't really call this a bait and switch either because I do believe that SE meant to release a great product and support it. Unfortunately, it didn't quite happen that way.

To be fair, you guys could have just rated the thread down and let it sink to the bottom of the pile. This person obviously played a lot of XIV 1.0 so they've got experience. They also played the beta and are still unsatisfied. I feel qualified to speak about trolling as I've been accused of it so much and I really gotta say, this wouldn't have been a troll unless you guys flooded the thread with the type of responses you have.

Personally, if I were a business owner and had sold XIV to anyone I'd be offering a refund on my product. I realize that SE didn't charge the sub fee for quite a while and obviously they felt it wasn't worth charging for, but at this point in the game I really feel that the client should be free anyway. If I were SE and apapertiger called me I'd apologize, offer a refund for the full amount of purchase(minus any subscription fees paid) and I'd let them know that their account would still be eligible for the free client download for ARR. The only customers who would be charged for XIV are the PS3 and PS4 players(obvious reasons).

All of the legal stuff is aimed at people who are banned from XIV for things like RMT, botting, ect.. If you are banned for something then SE reserves the right to close your account without refunding the purchase of the game, nor the subscription fees remaining beyond the point that service is cancelled. Yes, they reserve that right. No, it is not a right that they can exercise without a valid reason to do so. C'mon guys, really...?

"I asked square if I was completely hosed since ARR isn't the game I bought nor is it the game I wanted. "

So you're basically trying to see if you can squeeze out a refund or something, because 1.0 shut down, right? I see you've got your character Papertiger, which means you've played your share of 1.0 already.

Good luck on that, lol.

Oh I'll be playing ARR as I have enjoyed Alpha, Beta and was in Alpha and Beta for v1. Yes v1 at the start was terrible, but 1.23 was sitting at a good spot. Besides the obvious flaws. It was still different enough to set it apart from 99% of the other MMOs out and about right now. Sadly with Yoshi's direction even taking out the option to do World Roaming/Camping parties is a huge let down. Not everyone wants to spam through quest text just told to go kill the same mobs a group of players could be doing.

I am not saying XIV:ARR is a bad game, because it's not. I love it actually, and I miss it terribly on the weekdays or in between phases. But let's be real, it's not going to be the next big thing, it does not do anything special that any other MMO hasn't done already. The strong grouping aspect has been removed, and instead of the journey it has become about getting cap asap.

Yoshi would do a huge service to those who enjoy playing a MMO for the people aspect by taking off the Exp cap on Mobs and allowing people to get 4-8 people and roaming/camping higher level mobs. You'll see massive complaints come in when people have leveled up 3 classes and have nothing to do but grind anymore as all there quest text they used to just spam through is no longer there.

People today do not want to play a MMO, they want to play a single player RPG with real life people in the background, and that shows by nothing but solo content in the last 10 years. Make a MMO with strong group content and it gets rejected because people don't want to play with others unless it's about getting loot. Anyways, just my two cents, and again I love ARR, just disappointed with some of Yoshi's actions. When he asked us all those questionaires I had no clue this is what he meant.

You bought a bad batch of chocolate, not vanilla.

Wow I've never seen such a dumb post in all of my Zam'n. The guy is upset because 1.0 no longer exists? So what happens when we play an MMO for 10 years and they shutdown service? Do we still get a refund on everything you ever paid because our game is no longer available? Are MMOs expected to run forever without ever changing any aspect?

Lastly, why is OP so bent on continuously letting everyone know he/she is from California? Are we all supposed to be like "oooh don't mess with him/her, he/she's from a cool place." Is this a troll post?

It IS kind of strange how fans of ARR might congregate on a fansite... weird.

Seriously though, it's ok to criticize the game. What you can't do though, is sound like an entitled jackass while you're doing it. That's actually just not ok anywhere.

For the record, this is the line that set off my BS alarm:


He was actually fine right up until that point.

Just like many of the problems in this country, don't blame Square-Enix, blame your friends, family, neighbors etc. ARR is as it is because of the countless compiled requests and complaints about 1.0...and even currently 2.0. Perusing through the beta forums I am utterly shocked at the requests contained within "popular" threads. Things evolve due to requests. The game is easier because people thought XI and 1.0 were too hard. The graphics aren't quite as high-res because people complained they couldn't run it. The list goes on and on, yet after all that feedback was taken and addressed it wasn't enough. Now people just complain about the monster they've created.

Once it becomes what everyone wants, nobody wants it...almost as if people enjoy complaining just so that once they have shown their power over the company they can lick their fingers clean and walk away with a greasy smile on their face saying "see company, you're not so big after all."

Square has done an amazing job trying to satisfy all of the minutia of (sometimes ridiculous) complaints and requests. If someone isn't happy still, that person must just be a miserable person in general and only finds the negative in everything.



Edited, Jun 17th 2013 7:56pm by electromagnet83

Actually, until you, I hadn't touched any of the ratings buttons in this thread. And you're right.. *I* said it was weird that fans would be on a fansite. In fact I said it in the post you quoted.

Maybe go for some reading comprehension before you just reach for blind internet rage.