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So there is no need for 2 zam designated servers ? We can all join one legacy server, and those who want to start from level 1 can and those who want to stick to their legacy characters can also :D It would help to have a few 50 for friends XD!

Well that is silly considering you have a good opportunity to have a community from scratch, no need to splinter it, because of no good reason at all, there are no downsides to having 10-20 characters at max level, they can help, guide, tutor the new ones, help on the wiki etc etc, there is really no downside to it other than "Oh i am just being silly"

Um, the downside is that new players probably would want to start on a new server with a fresh economy. I personally would like to be one of the people setting the market prices for high end goods by leveling up my DoL/DoH classes first. That really isn't possible if we're all on a legacy server. Plus, a lot of people just want the fresh experience, and being on a server where the majority of players are already level 50 wouldn't allow that.

Why not just have the legacy players have a LS on a legacy server, and the "new" players have an LS on a new player server? Nothing is stopping anyone from making a character on a legacy server if they want the help from level 50's, and nothing is stopping legacy players from making a new character and joining the new player LS.

And Duo, I also agree with everything you said. Great post, rate up from me.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 10:02am by BartelX

I was on Couerl for the beta 2. Part of me wants to move to Goblin just for the fact that it's easier to spell.

Montreal is a decent enough location for most of the US, but it's pretty awful for the EU players. Not much different from the server being in Japan as far as they go.

It would be nice if one of the CMs would just tell us outright where the servers are though.. it seems like they're avoiding the question on the official forums (it's impossible to miss).

Maybe the new data centers are like the Flying Dutchman.. sure they're in North America, but they could be anywhere in North America.. at any time.

BTW please go participate in the surveys I spammed the forum with. The more data, the better.

Then why do you care so much if we want to start on a new server and start completely fresh? Why is it silly if you admit you don't even understand it? You admit that it doesn't even affect you...

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 5:13pm by BartelX

When I'm in your situation, Ostia, I take a step back and look at my post so I can weed out aggressive speech from it. If you're looking to disarm a potential argument, that's another place to keep an eye on.

But to explain two drawbacks to not having 'fresh start'

It primarily harms the hardcore that adapt it at the new launch. Why? World Firsts. Any new players start at a complete disadvantage of getting world firsts on any Legacy Server.

Second. Economy control. Those who are complaining about the threat of economy being inflated by existing gil, in truth, may be wanting to be in control of the gil flow themselves.

Legacy Servers are actually more likely to flood the market with crafted items than dominate the market. Reason being - 1.0 was heavy in crafters, due to several factors, the most important of which was the poor market system that was in place in the absence of the Auction House. So Gathering and Crafting are already going to pick up heavily and push the prices down compared to a Non-Legacy server that will have limited crafters throughout the beginning of the Server's History.

So those who are wanting to get a jump on the market by being one of the first established crafters will be at a distinct disadvantage there.

Additionally, think of housing. Housing will likely be where all the Gil from the Legacy players are going to disappear. Everyone Is going to want a Large Guild house. And established Linkshells with Legacy Members are going to have a head start there.

So, to explain it to you Ostia. It's all about the rat race and Legacy's got a head start in it.

Personally, even as a Legacy, I don't care about the rat race, but I do want a house for my Guild.

You are taking what i said out of context, and simply pointing out the advantages and disadvantages of legacy vs fresh, which was never my point, my argument is that given the chance that we have, now to create a zam community before the game launches, why would you rather have 2 splintered communities over one, in face of that chance, it seems very silly, as for the rest of what you said... Well we can argue about 1.0 and 2.0 economy or lack off once the NDA lift.

But that's just it... it might be silly to you Ostia, but to a lot of us it's important. I get what you're saying about not wanting to splinter the zam community, now please get what we are saying. A lot of us want to be on even ground as everyone else, have a fresh start in a fresh economy, and not be held by the hand by others to get stuff done. I have a level 50 gladiator, with several crafts in the 30's and most jobs in the 20's, but I want to start fresh because it's a completely different game than 1.0, and I want to do it with other players who are starting fresh and experience everything from the ground up. I don't think that's silly, I think that's very reasonable.

Honestly I'm thinking it folly to think we're going to have a set Zam community server anyways.

First of all, most of us already come from established communities either within 1.xx or other games, and we will likely work within those communities and go where they go.

Additionally, let's face it. We've all got different views and lifestyles. That may not mesh very well, especially as FFXIV's Zam community grows, which I hope it will.

Legacy vs New? That's just one of MANY dividing lines between us that you're not going to solve no matter what better nature you attempt to appeal to.

That's not an insult to anyone. It's just being realistic. Let's not force one another to conform. We are best when we are a distributed community coming together here on the forums, rather than trying to turn Zam into one big unofficial guild.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 9:02pm by Hyrist

I have a high level character with millions upon millions of gil, i am still starting fresh, but really i never understood that silly sense of "Equal Ground" there is no such thing in an MMO, some will reach 50 first, some will take their time, some will level their craft before leveling a combat class, most wont, there is no equality, the people with the most free time, will always have an advantage, as far as economy... Well such thing did not exist in 1.0, and we cannot talk about ARR, but same trend really.

Meh, to each their own. Everyone starts out equal on a fresh server. What you choose to do is up to you. You can choose to be the first to 50, or the first crafter, or gatherer, or whatever you want. You still all start out on equal footing. Why would I want to start a new character on a server where most people are capped, have tons of gil, and are already working on endgame? Sorry, to me that just doesn't sound very appealing. It's just a matter of personal preference.