What class/job will you main in ARR first? (poll request)Follow

Why, though? I'm still going to be our tank for when we do decide to go level up together...

I hate to burst your bubble but Archer is not a pure DD. Just like Bard, it is a hybrid. By the time you upgrade from Archer to Bard the abilities you will get fron switching will likely outweigh the cross class abilities you have at your disposal.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 4:02pm by UltKnightGrover

I've been hearing the stat difference will be minor if anything. I'm pretty set on lalafell melee but I've been entertaining the thought of a Roegadyn named Prince Vultan..."HAWKMEN DIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!!!"

Seeing that you're still an avid player of FFXI, I can understand why. (not being sarcastic) It is quite a diversion from the old formula, and draws much more from other MMOs it seems. Original XIV launch broke my heart though, for real.

lolololol

I get that you want a ranged damage dealer.

However, I feel that your argument holds the same weight as someone who picks Gladiator, equips Conjurer and Thaumaturge abilities, and does it out of protest because S-E didn't include "Red Mage".

Are you playing Archer out of protest because S-E won't introduce a ranged DD, or because you really think that changing to Bard will destroy your stats from your Archer (because it won't).

THF...

If I keep saying it it might come true...right?

Seriously, probably MNK or DRG. (In haste I typed DERG, which reminded me of ERMEHGERD, so from now on I'm going to use that typo and rename DRG, DERG.)

Call it needless concern~ I suppose I was just under the impression that we wouldn't be playing DoW/DoM classes until you rule the free market with an iron fist, calling shots on what goes on the Auction House and running a syndicate to get rid of the competition(Note: This is just a dramatized imagination coming from an eccentrically amused and possibly drugged up Asian! ...Maybe~)




I think the point being made is someone that wants to try and become a ranged DD class won't go for the Soul of a Bard because it will be a bit redundant, unless a Bard will make an Archer stronger DPS-wise?

Highlighting the point even more. What is the purpose of having a class that does terrible damage and brings no utility. This will need to be addressed with balancing, a buff, or the introduction of RNG.

This analysis is inaccurate. Bard was actually very useful in 1.0.

In Garuda they were used to clean-up the wind adds that damaged the rocks. There was Gloom Arrow and there was another AoE WS that only Bard obtained did wonders on cleanup.

For all primals Sacred Prism+Sanguine Rite could almost fill up everyones MP bar when they did their ultimate move. (Thaumaturges [not BLM] could also use this combination with an increased defense from maining Sanguine Rite . However, it was at the expense of the loss of BLM ancient magic and Convert... so it wasn't really worth it on their end.)

Swiftsong was an AoE movement speed+ song that greatly helped on doing speedruns for the dungeons.

A Bard and Monk combination is very deadly due to Monk requiring MP to do its attacks. (And it uses those attacks very often). A Bard can deal some moderate damage in between song timers.

Bards can also clean up the ant adds with its AoE weapon skills on the Princess boss in Cutter's Cry.

ok ok well for primals bard was used in moogles and garuda, so yeah that was inaccurate, but lolifrit blm rape and the fight was over in 3 mins.

they were used during the speed run yes, however get to the final boss and they job swapped. AV was tank whm blm 5xmnk, CC my LS melee burned it pld, war 2 drg 3mnk 1whm, or you could blm burn it.

yeah having a bard with a mnk was good but mnk also had a ws that when used in combo it restored their mp, negating the need for a bard if you knew what you were doing, my LS did hard mode darnus with a mnk and no brd and our mnks knew how to keep their mp up

this is a mid boss, so yes there would have been a bard present for swiftsong for the speedrun still, and having 2-3 drg in the party the adds dont really matter.


Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 8:47pm by Asukuu

I'll be really bummed if this is the case. I think rather, that warrior is going to be more of an AoE tank for adds, while paladin will be a straight up 1 on 1 tank. I could be wrong with that thinking, but isn't that basically how it worked in 1.0? Also, I'm hoping that if you gear it properly it will hold it's own in DPS, and again be a good DD for AoE situations.

Um...

No.

It's because FFXIV was just that bad. I played at launch, every melee felt like the same generic crap. Every mage felt like the same generic crap. Crafting was utterly disgusting. Leve grinding was idiotic. Everything took too long. Too many menus, too little content. EXP grinding was sh*t. Quests... what quests? Linkshell structure was terrible. No Auction House because OMG BUYING STUFF SHOULD BE AN ADVENTURE....

Basically all FFXIV had going for it was that it was pretty.

I may play FFXI, but I've also played CoH, WoW, LOTR:O, Eve: Online and a number of other games. My opinion of FFXIV was not impacted by FFXI. It was impacted solely by the steaming pile of sh*t that was FFXIV.

Edit:

IE this and this (second not my video but if I had done a video, that's what it would have been)

Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 9:28pm by Pawkeshup