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JAJAJAJA! Omg! Are people seriously this Stupid ? I mean REALLY ? SE is not greedy ? FF Dimensions, FFXIII-2, FF All the bravest, FF Crystal chronicles(All of them jesus) Those are titles strictly made to get $$$, their quality is not only horrible, but they have little Final Fantasy in them, just the Name. Also SE is a company, if you think a company is not out to make money, but to bring fans joy and rainbows, please jump off a bridge and save the gene pool.

Also this notion that because they have not said something it wont happen is dumb, they have not told anybody that genji gear will be in the game, but i am sure it will be eventually, micro transactions are the law of the land, hell the ugly giant mount we got, was a micro transaction of sorts :)

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Tifa! Lulu! X-2! SE has never used females.... Like EVER!.... More like They where pretty much the first ones with Tifa :) I mean like seriously X-2 Does exist, is not some nighmare we had and we woke up and never happened [:lol:]

Also microtransactions are not bad, look at WOW, it has some microtransactions, and they are filthy Rich!

Yeah because they did not had the BALLS! To make us pay for an unplayable unfinished product called XIV! If i recall correctly their statement said that even if NOBODY signed up for the sub they WOULD continue ahead with the creating of ARR! Yet they where so kind as to ask us for money they obviously did not need, i mean if you are gonna go anyways and make ARR from out of your own pocket because you feel like you let us down, why ask for OUR MONEY ?

Seriously SE is a company, people act like they would have come out and said "FFXIV was a subpar ******* and is beneath the FF Name!" Even if FFXIV had sold 50 billion copies the first day as it was at release... Jesus get real people

I'm sure a lot of people would like that "damn white knight admin on zam" to up and quit, I see Preludes and Poubelle praying for it every night before bed

My blood pressure just increased a bit

You should care that it brings more players because players are needed for the MMO part of an MMOrpg. Also, players are needed for the success everyone desperately wants. I didn't understand the rest of your post, but someone would be willing to pay for the subscription on a f2p MMO for the additional perks it offers. When it's done properly, these incentives can be well worth keeping a subscription on a f2p mmo. The point is, you have options.

This is where the argument gets strange. So if the F2P model is PERFECT and everyone is on equal ground, the game is great, whatever, you STILL won't play, simply because it's not forcing you to pay?

This is where people always lose me in this debate. It has ALWAYS boiled downed to this when the conversation comes up, whether it be about FFXI or FFXIV. It doesn't matter how it's done, free is automatically bad -

because these so-called "undesirables" will be on the same server as you? Lighten up, sheesh.

Edited, Mar 27th 2013 7:18pm by Killua125

How about a free 30 day trial? Most subscription games offer this. The F2P model is just an extension of the concept.

I don't think I'd immediately quit if FFXIV went F2P, but I would definitely lose a lot of interest, and I'd probably quickly fade out.

I just don't believe in paying real money for meaningless, cosmetic items... and I'm fundamentally against paying real money just to access actual, real content (such as meaningful gear, dungeon access, etc) that should be included with a flat monthly fee.

So, if FFXIV went F2P, then I'd just play whatever the "free" version allowed, and nothing more... which means I wouldn't be able to enjoy the game to the fullest, which means I'd probably soon leave.

Is anyone posting here not going to play FFXIV:ARR because Yoshi has said it will be P2P? I'd really like to collect some data on the types of people who are most upset it is P2P. All this chatter has me curious. I also wonder if Yoshi hasn't seen similar statistics and based his decision off said data.

I also find it curious that even though many MMOs in the last couple years have gone F2P many started out P2P. If F2P is superior why do all these games keep attempting to have a go at P2P?

Edited, Mar 27th 2013 8:05pm by kainsilv

Personally, I liked the FFXIII series so far. The only thing I didn't like about XIII is the fact that the world was so linear. In XIII-2, they did a much better job. I think the story made sense. They only thing that didn't make sense is the fact they expected their customers to pay for DLC just to see a proper ending to the story. That wasn't a smart move by any means. I don't know the exact numbers, and maybe I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure XIII-2 has sold the most copies of any FF game for a long while now. I'm pretty much to the point that the old school FF fans simply wont be happy with the FF's they release nowadays. The franchise has been in a long trend of becoming more and more action based and we see it in the battle system. I guess they are trying to classify the games as an "action rpg" while staying true to their roots, but many of their player base simply doesn't like the way they implement it.

Overall, in my personal opinion, I think that the recent FF games have been a success. The thing, I think, they are running into is the fact that they've changed the games so much over their long span that their fans are coming in at different times and they feel like a "Final Fantasy" game should be just like the game where they entered at. As this keeps going on, they continue changing the games and people continue to form different ideas of what "Final Fantasy" should be and they feel the backlash. We, as a FF community, are very passionate about the franchise and it's obvious that we all want it to succeed. It just seems like we all have different ideas of how it should be as opposed to how the company keeps doing it. I'm happy as long as they have a halfway decent story, with randomish battles and an immersive world. They've succeeded in my book with all of those.

EDIT: Removed extra part of quote that showed up twice.

Edited, Mar 27th 2013 8:14pm by swisa

ooh i second that. Honestly I dont mind F2p with some games.. But like wint andothers have said repeatedly.. F2P is where games go to die lol. Almost every FtP game I have played has been low quality and none have empressed me like FFXI or even FFXIV 1.x.. That is truth. I have the utmost confidence that ARR is going to be the shiz.. I dont care for all the little avatars that follow you around and all the crazy mounts.. seems like a little much. But I cant hate on them for taking some of the successful features of other games.. But FtP.. Just cant do it captain..