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By that point I was getting tired of the thread and personal attacks on myself and Thayos. The actual thread that pissed Kao off I think was one where someone posted some thoughts on some illicit Beta videos and Bethany1 posted something like "You better ban this SOB Wint" or some such. We do get paid to moderate here, but it's not enough to deal with that kind of bull.

Why do you keep using the term "blind faith"? I've been around a looooong time, and I've seen everything from start to finish.

Blind faith was "It will be fixed in beta. It will be fixed in the next beta. It will be fixed before release." without a word from SE that they even acknowledged there were issues. THAT was blind fanboism idiotic faith.

What's happening now is an analysis of Yoshi-P's dialogue with the players and the information he has released detailing his plans. We've gotten to see a lot of those plans in action in the form of videos he has released. So yes, folks have faith in him, but it's for the right reasons this time.

The faith in Yoshi-P isn't blind, by a long shot.

Most of us were rather suspicious of the man to start, but were willing to give him a shot because anything was better than Tanaka at that point.

However he started doing something that took players by suprise and gave them a good first impression. That being the Letters from the Developer. He then exemplified that impression by creating the Live Letters, which we've now had five of.

It was a fantastic new trend for the course of FFXIV, but even then that would only take them so far. But he did not stop at just making promises and progress reports. He made promises that he kept. His work in improving FFXIV by 1.2 alone was a staggering contrast to when he he was handed the reins, and a lot of the adjustments were based on feedback.

In the past year he has shown a consistent track record of openness, community participation, listening to feedback, and delivering the best he can on his promises. (And explaining in the instances in which he's late on a promise.) He's adamant in his desire to create a game worthy of the Final Fantasy franchise and his efforts are showing. That is the reason why he has fans. That is the reason why people have faith in him. It is not a faith that was given to him, it was a faith that he earned, and I am optimistic for him delivering on his efforts.

Optimistic I think is the good word.

Just remember: Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

The worst: XIV 2.0 still sucks. We all quit within a month and go to Wildstar instead.

The best: XIV 2.0 is the best MMO ever made and single handedly saves Square Enix's portfolio and we're all gonna look back ten years from now and laugh at how afraid we are.

The reality will of course be in between those two extremes. Optimism is the belief that it'll be closer to the "best case" than it will the worst case.

Depends. I don't ban people because they disagree with me. Continue to harass, sure. Ask GYLDL, I can take my lumps and admit when I'm wrong, and I don't think anyone here is going to complain about Bethany1 being gone.

And in the best case situation, I'd say that it was the best thing that happened to the company. I still may even if it's not in the best case.

Sometimes getting smacked with a bit of humility can do wonders.

Unless you are referring to the Star Onion Brigade

FFXIV has a ton of potential to not only be better than 1.0, but to be better than most of the new batches of MMOs out there. I don't think you quite understand the term fanboy. A fanboy is not just someone who dosen't think like you.

I had a lot of choices of fan sites to join and discuss FFXIV, I chose this one because the moderators showed themselves to be the most reasonable and fair. Just in the last few days it's easy to see from the posts that Wint and the others put up with alot of crap. I know I couldn't put up with the abuse they do and not come unglued.

Their jobs don't hinge on the success of FFXIV, ZAM is a big network of sites, it's been around since freeking Evercrack. If FFXIV tanks, they can always be moved to moderation of other forums. They might not enjoy their job as much, but they would still most likely have a job.

I'm new to this forum, my first dozen posts have been complaints about FFXIV, I have not been banned, I have not even gotten rate downs. I have gotten some pretty good debates and good information. If you post as a reasonable person, you get treated like a reasonable person.

Why is it unprofessional to point out that it makes no sense for you to hang out on a forum for a game you obviously don't like?

If you don't like the game, that's fine. Everyone has different tastes. But spouting off crap that can be easily proven false just makes you look like an unthinking fool and undermines any point you might have.

Edit: Fixed some typos I missed and to add a bit to make sure catwho dosen't think any of this is aimed at them ;p

Edited, Mar 2nd 2013 12:25pm by Wyldkat

Meh, the way you talk you'd think you were new around here or something. You're not in Kansas, anymore.

The mods here are very lax because the karma system does most of their job for them. As a result, they get to be themselves and actually be an active part of the community. They don't necessarily have to be professional, at least to a certain extent.

It's vastly preferable to the paid mods who don't really care about the subject at all and basically act like robots. I like that our mods don't have a stick up their ***. I've never felt threatened telling any of them exactly what I think, and I've said some things I'm not particularly proud of in retrospect.

you too Kachi