PSA: High Level Crafting LS on UltrosFollow

So im not on ultros but perhaps i can pick your brain.

I have been leveling all of my crafts in sync from 1-5, 5-10, 10-15 etc.

Currently All are 45 except alchemy/cooking.

For the most part i have been sticking to triple leves cause im rather low (19 at the moment), but 40+ on alchemy seems like the only real option is to keep making those level 35 potions. Im not a fan of the 40 durability items as they are actually harder than the 70/80 durability items and give less exp than other tripples their same level. And the level 35 triple is cheaper/easier than any of the level 40 and gives more exp than the single hand ins/courier.

Is there a good spot to farm blue landtrap leafs or is it really just doing the 35 potions to 50? Because even the level 45 are stupid and require that god awful pudding flesh.

My go to rotation on a 40 is:

1. Inner Quiet
-Tricks of the Trade (If up)
2. Steady Hands II
-Tricks of the Trade (If up)
3. If ToT was used then Manipulation, If not then Waste Not
4. Hasty Touch (3x if Manipulation, 4x if Waste Not) (Do not use ToT during this phase)
5. When Durability is 10/40 then Master's Mend, if 20/40 Steady Hands II + Hasty Touch to bring to 10/40 then Master's Mend
6. 40/40 - use Steady Hands II + Waste Not, then 4x Hasty Touch (Do NOt use ToT during this phase)
7. Get to 100% or as close as possible for quality while leaving just enough durability to finish
8. Rumination if needed, Steady Hands II, finish synth

I HQ nearly 100% of the time using this method for Steel Ingots as a level 40 ARM... I do sprinkle in ToT as long as I'm not in the middle of Manipulation or Waste Not, and the occasional Standard Touch on "Excellent" condition.

Edit:

I've actually found out recently that whether you're using Manipulation or Waste Not, it's best to always use ToT when it pops.

- If you're using Manipulation it will just add another 10 durability to the synth, so you didn't lose anything by taking the extra 20 CP.

- If you're using Waste Not, you only lose 5 durability and at the end when you're still left with 5, (which is just as good as 10, it gets you one more move), so again you didn't really lose anything.

I know I was the one who advocated this save tricks only for the times in-between, but I have been pretty active in crafting threads over on Reddit and have picked up a few things since I posted that advice here a few weeks ago.

The extra CP is actually more valuable to you than 1 tick of Manipulation or Waste Not, even when combined with SH2.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 2:08pm by Hairspray

I'd actually never thought of using Waste Not because if TotT procs it counts as a synth but the durability doesn't drop. I don't know how many times I've needed one synth to complete a recipe then noticed I'm sitting at 5 durability. I've only ever used it in emergency if I'm @ 10 durability but can't guarantee I'll finish in one action.

I've just had a thought, I wonder if Careful Synthesis would work on an item with 5 durability left without Waste Not active ....

For completion? Yes.

Were you doing these on Firesday? You know you have to use fire crystals on Firesday while facing southeast while standing on one foot while singing happy birthday...At times there is something screwy with crafting. Last night I was spamming mythril ingots with HQ mats which is an easy HQ for me. However, every 5th ingot would NQ either by every touch failing or being at over 90% quality but not HQing. Random is random, but it was literally every 5th ingot for two stacks.

That is pretty brutal, but I guess it can happen.

Can someone clarify for me, is SH2+HH as 65% proc (50% + (30% of 50%) or a straight 80% (30% + 50%)? I read it as 65%, but I've seen arguments against, but the only reasoning for the argument was the wording of SH2.

Edited for typo

Edited, Oct 8th 2013 11:46am by SolomonGrundy

Edited again 'cause I had a massive brain fart.

Edited, Oct 8th 2013 11:56am by SolomonGrundy

It is generally accepted that SH2 (+30%) + hasty hands (50%) is additive for a total of 80%, which seems to fit the fail/success rates I've observed.

The issue is steady hands 1. I have seen times where +20% SH1 and standard touch (80%) have failed, but its so rare it was maybe 5 times total while leveling weaver 1-50 (didnt have hasty hands or sh2 back when i did it). Alot of people have said they have seen it fail, but it was just ultra rare. It makes me think that its lag and the buff looks like its still there, and its really gone and just hasn't updated yet.

Ive seen this a lot with tricks of the trade not popping, because it doesnt show up as good until after i hit hasty hands (with lag can take up to 3 seconds some times to appear as good). I just assume its the general lag that is part of ff14.

It's a straight 80%. As for figuring the odds, 80% success just means that there is a 1 in 5 chance of failure per attempt.

The Kraken Club has a Crafting LS, if you weren't aware.

What is your cp at cause i do round 1 (5-6 hasty depending on if i use manip or wnwn) then hit makers mend and do phase 2 (again 5-6 hasty depending on manip/wnwn)

This typically leaves me at about 20-40% chance to hq with 0 cp and 1 move for progress, if i use rumination i can get some cp but lose my IQ stacks and basically get it to 70-80% chance to hq at best.

This did work once, when 0 hasty touches failed, so basically i had 11 hasty touch, and perfect luck with tot so that i could use manipulation both times. Without that though it seems to cap out at 20-40% unless you get a lucky excellent/a lot of goods during + quality

No I was not aware... please send me an invite to this LS later.